Helen De Cruz has some excellent suggestions for how to talk to creationists given that neither debate nor denouncement are likely to be productive.  She describes the way in which a religious person who is not a creationist can speak to another religious person who is a creationist, e.g., by pointing out that Biblical literalism is a recently emerged approach, one that may be impossible to apply consistently, and for that reason among others it may not be thoroughly used by anyone.

This article by Dan Kahan suggests that disbelief in human-caused climate change is like belief in creationism in this respect: What people "believe" about each doesn't reflect what they know, but rather expresses who they are.  This supports the thesis that providing evidence for creationism isn't likely to change minds and that providing evidence for climate change isn't likely to change minds, either.

But what is the climate change equivalent, where we speak to people from their own perspective as Helen proposes that we do for religious people who are creationists?



I think we can all agree, as Kahan points out, that an antagonistic approach is doomed to failure.  Very few people respond to antagonistic approaches.

Kahan further suggests, along lines similar to Helen's, that we don't make climate change deniers choose between their "scientific" beliefs and their views about who they are – what Kahan calls their cultural identity, or the group that they identify with.  To be honest, though, I am not sure what cultural group that climate change deniers are in (some subset of Republicans?).  And his specific proposal seems to be that we emphasize adaptation and mitigation strategies.  But that can only be part of the plan; we have to reduce our production of greenhouse gases, too, one way or another.

Similarly, I have seen people emphasize that climate change threatens our national security, which is no doubt true.  But it seems a bit remote to work as a motivator for change.

Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway have pointed out that those who have deliberately sought to undermine belief in human-caused climate change have done so in part by appealing to people's beliefs about freedom, i.e., by claiming that those who are warning about climate change are really just trying to take away your freedoms (to drive gas guzzling vehicles, for example?).  Is there a way to turn this approach around to promote the view that we need to take action to avoid climate change?

In my very first post to this blog, I pointed out that we might think of climate change as the issue that trumps all other issues – the thing you should care about regardless of what else you might care about.  (A sort of "keystone" value).  To quote myself shamelessly: "…we can expect more droughts, more food shortages, more loss of coastal lands, more extreme storms, more loss of species, more disease.  If you care about economic issues, this ought to concern you.  If you care about world unrest, then this ought to concern you.  If you care about how low income individuals will fare, this ought to concern you.  If you care about health care, this ought to concern you.  And if you think that civil liberties and civil rights, already under pressure, will be maintained in the face of these challenges, this ought to concern you."

But I don't know if that works as a strategy, either.  Thoughts?

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9 responses to “If fighting climate change denial is like fighting creationism, how do we do it?”

  1. Jay Odenbaugh Avatar

    Roberta, Thanks for the interesting post. Having read Kahan’s work and others along the same lines, I have grown deeply pessimistic. In essence, the studies suggest that the climate change has become a political issue by which different “tribes” identify themselves and out-groups. The best predictor of your climate beliefs is your political affiliation. Additionally, variation in scientific literacy does not change this in the least. In fact, amongst Republicans increasingly scientific literacy is slightly correlated with increasing denial. So, if this work is correct, denialism has nothing to do with science and everything to do with tribal politics and morality. If anything would work, it would have to break associations with politics. Your quote above won’t work unless something thinks we should expect the impacts you mention and which denialists deny are coming. All that being said, Joshua Greene’s book on Moral Tribes might have some fruitful suggestions.

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  2. dmf Avatar

    if we could just get out the people who already say that they agree with us to vote at all levels of government I think we might have a slim shot, otherwise…

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  3. Dan Hicks Avatar

    For many conservatives — though certainly not all — stewardship is a key way of framing environmental issues. Roughly, these sorts of conservatives believe that God has entrusted us with the care of the world, to be good stewards of the land, and so on, and environmental problems show that we’re not satisfying these responsibilities. These conservatives might still support freedom and markets, but only under an umbrella of Burkean tradition and responsibility.
    In environmental ethics terms, this kind of view isn’t strictly anthropocentric or ecocentric. It’s not anthropocentric because non-human organisms are seen as having some non-instrumental value and deserving some respect. But it’s not ecocentric because humans are still on top. The closest non-religious views would probably be the agrarianism of Aldo Leopold, Wendell Berry, and Paul Thompson.
    Also, I highly recommend Barbara Kingsolver’s novel /Flight Behavior/. Much of the dramatic tension in the book comes from the interactions between a family of religious, conservative sheep farmers and a team of research scientists. I think Kingsolver does a good job of avoiding stereotypes in both directions.

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  4. CJ Avatar
    CJ

    The BP oil spill seemed to get republicans interested in protecting the environment (in one very specific way, for a short time). You just need to generalise from that case. I think the big things to take away from it are: to blame the problem on foreigners, to show how it harms ordinary people back home, and to present the problem as a race to produce a practical technological solution. (Obviously foreigner-blaming part is morally troubling. I suppose if you think climate change is the biggest problem there is you might think stirring up a bit of animus is worth it, but I certainly wouldn’t want to be doing that.)
    Another idea: climate scepticism is typically a sort of conspiracy theory; anyone who submits to one conspiracy theory is typically amenable to others; we just need to substitute the current popular conspiracy ‘corrupt scientists have an interest in making you think that climate change is a problem’ with the alternative ‘corrupt oil and energy companies have an interest in making you think climate change isn’t a problem’.

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  5. Kenny Pearce Avatar

    In line with Jay, one thing to do (similar to Helen’s suggestions about creationism) is to find ways of highlighting people who agree with Republicans on some other issues who believe in climate change. I also agree with Dan that the rhetoric of stewardship is important. For a lot of conservatives there’s this bugbear of ‘radical environmentalism’ and the stereotyped image, I think, is of some hippy protesters who are willing to cause unlimited amounts of economic damage (and human pain and suffering) to ensure that no harm comes to the sea slug. So part of the story here is persuading people that the concern really is (primarily, though for reasonable people not exclusively) about humans, and the belief is that the economic damage and human pain and suffering that will occur if we do nothing about climate change will indeed be much greater than the costs of the programs being advocated. According to the stereotype, environmentalists aren’t even bothering to weigh the costs and benefits here. I think that stereotype has to be overcome if there is any chance of persuading people.
    That said, I don’t think that the stewardship line is the primary reason for climate denialism. I think the bugbear of ‘socialism’ is a bigger issue here. People believe that environmental concerns are just an excuse for the government to exert greater control over private property, and maybe even take some of it away. But in fact the issue can be framed in free market/private property terms: bad actors (oil companies, etc.) are damaging private property, and are not being made to pay for it! Framing the matter in this way might be the best way to get conservative/libertarian types on board with the idea that it’s a problem. There are, however, two difficulties here. The first difficulty is that both the guilt and the damage are so diffuse that it’s hard either to assign responsibility or figure out how to make reparations for it (and this also can increase the difficulty of convincing people the damage is really happening – though that got easier when the first group of climate change refugees recently lost their island). The second difficulty is that free market/private property types are going to disagree with progressives about how to approach the problem. But, really, just getting everyone to agree that there IS a problem would be a big step.
    (Incidentally, I argued on my blog some time ago that libertarians ought to support a carbon tax on free market/private property grounds: http://blog.kennypearce.net/archives/politics/environmental_policy/why_libertarians_should_suppor.html)

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  6. Charles Pigden Avatar
    Charles Pigden

    To CJ
    And of course you have an advantage; The Corrupt Scientists conspiracy theory is false and the Corrupt Oil and Energy Companies conspiracy theory is basically true. (Though there may be some doubt as to whether it qualifies as a conspiracy theory since the plans of the ‘conspirators’ are not all that secret. )

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  7. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    [Sorry for the delayed reply — there were some problems with the commenting system which have now been fixed. I tried and failed to send this a couple of days ago]/
    Jay, I thought of that when I posted it, but I figured that Kahan’s solution suffered from the same problem, and at least mine had the advantage of being more comprehensive and (ultimately) not tied to any particular set of values. But still, it’s lacking, I agree, which is why I floated it rather than argued for it.
    You say, “If anything would work, it would have to break associations with politics.” This seems right. And it seems we ought to be able to do it, since truly, environmentalism has no more of a natural affinity with liberalism than it does with conservatism. We need to put the conserve back into conservative. I welcome thoughts as to how to do that. I’ll take a look at Greene’s book.

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  8. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    Yes, I agree, stewardship is another good point to press on, and I know that a number of religious organizations are pressing for environmental causes on exactly those grounds.
    I liked Barbara Kingsolver’s novel as well (I’m a big fan of hers in general), but wasn’t sure how it would read to someone who wasn’t already on her side. I agree that she tried very hard to avoid stereotypes and to speak to a broader audience.

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  9. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    Sorry for the delay in your comment appearing. It was caught up in Typepad’s overactive spam filter.

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