Ruth Millikan’s Dewey Lecture has been getting a lot of favorable attention in the blogosphere recently. Rightly so. But I want to challenge one part of it that most philosophers seem to like. I’ll quote almost all of the relevant two paragraphs, since when I try to trim I think I do a disservice to her argument.

Millikan writes:

Philosophy is not a field in which piles of small findings later help to secure
fundamental advances.
Little philosophical puzzles do not usually need to be solved but rather dissolved by examining the wider framework within which they occur. This often involves determinedly seeking out and exposing deeply entrenched underlying
assumptions
, working out what their diverse and far-ranging effects have been,
constructing and evaluating alternatives, trying to foresee distant implications. It often involves trying to view quite large areas in new ways, ways that may cut across usual distinctions both within philosophy and outside and that may require a broad knowledge across disciplines. Add that to acquire the flexibility of mind and the feel for the possibility of fundamental change in outlook that may be needed, a serious immersion for a considerable time in the history of philosophy is a near necessity. This kind of work takes a great deal of patience and it takes time. Nor can it be done in small pieces, first this little puzzle then that. Kant published the Critique of Pure Reason at age fifty-seven and the other critiques came later. Closer to our time, Wilfrid Sellars published his first paper at thirty-five, having lived and worked with philosophy all his life up to then. I have never tried to research the matter but I have no reason to think these cases unique…. Further, because a serious understanding of the historical tradition is both essential and quite difficult to acquire by oneself, helping to pass on this tradition with care and respect should always be the first obligation of a professional philosopher. Given all this, it has always struck me as a no-brainer that forcing early and continuous publication in philosophy is, simply, genocidal. Forcing publication at all is not
necessarily good.


In philosophy there are no hard data. And there are no proofs. Both in the writing and in the reviewing, deep intellectual honesty and integrity are the only checks on quality. This cannot be hurried. Authors who discover their errors must be free sometimes just to start over. They need time to be sure that their use of sources is accurate. Reviewers need time to digest and to check sources themselves when not already familiar with them, nor should they feel under pressure to pass on essays out of sympathy for the impossible position of young people seeking jobs or tenure. Unread journals should not be proliferating to accommodate, mainly, the perceived needs of administrators to keep their institutions competitive. What we philosophers are after is not something one needs to compete for, nor will more philosophical publications result in more jobs for philosophers. Necessarily, carrots and sticks produce cheapened philosophy (p. 10-11).

Related concerns about the “hyperprofessionalization” of philosophy were expressed by Rebecca Kukla in a recent blog post at Leiter Reports and endorsed in many of the comments on that post.

Much of what Millikan says resonates with philosophical readers for good reason. But I’m not sure that the discipline is harmed by expecting philosophy professors at research universities to publish at the rates typically required for tenure.

Imagine a first-year graduate student complaining that submitting papers for evaluation by her professors interferes with her ability to construct radical, paradigm-overturning ideas. I would respond that putting one’s words to the page for evaluation by others is philosophizing. And even if not all your ideas are ready for critical scrutiny, it’s a problem if none of them are. Philosophical ideas are generally developed by shaping them into words and arguments, either orally or in writing, and exposing those words to critique.

Of course assistant professors are not graduate students and journal referees are not professors grading seminar papers, but it’s not clear that to me that it harms philosophy to insist that research-oriented philosophy professors shape their ideas into articles or books that experts in their area judge to be of respectable quality. This seems to me no different from simply insisting that they do what their peers and elders judge to be good philosophy. (Maybe one could do purely oral philosophy? Or purely blogosphere philosophy? Sure, if it’s good enough! But keep a record of it.)

It would be bad to force people to publish at a rate that substantially impairs quality. But I don’t think that a good, substantial article or two per year, on average, is too much to ask of professors at universities with substantial research expectations and moderate teaching loads. It leaves sufficient time for creative thought, for delving into the history, for considering revolutionary new ideas that aren’t yet ready for print. Often, working on such articles is the very occasion for such thought and delving and potential revolutionizing, even if not all of that work is manifest in the article itself. And since we are human, it often helps to have carrots and sticks, as long as they are not abusively or narrow-mindedly employed.

(Caveat: I’m not arguing that these expectations should be combined with the up-or-out tenure system of most U.S. research universities, which is arguably inhumane. May I save that issue for another occasion?)

Is the field producing less “great” philosophy because people are publishing too early? That’s hard to judge without historical distance, but I don’t see why we should think so. For one thing, it’s not clear that we aren’t now producing great philosophy at rates so different from what would otherwise be expected. Even if we are producing less great philosophy now than we did in the latter half of the 20th century, possibly the latter half of the 20th century was a golden era for philosophy, in which case we ought to expect some deviation toward the historical mean. And even if we’re in more serious decline than that, I doubt the cause is that we expect philosophy professors to publish their work. Looking both historically into the past and cross-culturally to non-Anglophone countries, I suspect that advancement based on publication record tends to produce more great philosophy overall than do cozier arrangements of advancement based on… what? Whether you seem smart?

What I elided in the first quoted paragraph from Millikan was a parenthetical citation of two of my blog posts on the ages at which philosophers do their best work. In those posts I present evidence that philosophers do their best work at a broad range of ages (mostly late 20s through early 60s) — a broader range of ages, apparently, than do scientists. This partly supports Millikan’s point that philosophers often peak late; but it also partly undercuts her point. Berkeley, Ayer, Hume, Moore, Marx, Russell, and Ramsey all did their most-discussed work when they were in their 20s. Although Kant and Sellars were not highly unusual, they were also not typical. Great philosophy is done across the life span, and revolutionary ideas come from the newcomers and the young as often as they come from those steeped in decades of deep study.

Millikan raises good points. There’s much that I agree with in her reservations about the professionalization of our field. But let me add the thoughts above as a bit of a counterweight. I don’t think our field’s publication expections have begun to approach genocidal levels.

[Cross-posted at The Splintered Mind.]

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23 responses to “On Professionalization and Greatness”

  1. Michael Kremer Avatar
    Michael Kremer

    “A good substantial article or two a year” was the expected rate of publication at a research university when I entered the profession in 1986. I don’t object to that amount of publication by tenure-track faculty at all. What worries me much more is the pressure to publish at that rate already in the last few years of graduate school, beginning even before a well-formulated dissertation topic has been approved, or while teaching a 4/4 load in a VAP position (we commonly see CVs of people just finishing their degrees with four or more publications, or even lists of publications that would at one time have qualified them for tenure on the spot). In those last few years of graduate school I think a student should be working to finish their dissertation, and perhaps publishing one or two papers, total. In the old days, the first few of those one to two publications a year for tenure could be expected to come out of the dissertation. Not so if the student must already have published their dissertation in bits to simply get a position.

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  2. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    What are we counting as Marx’s most discussed work? I would have assumed it was something like Capital (published when he was 59) or even the Manifesto (30), but according to your data I’m guessing what showed up were the essays like the critique of Hegel and on the Jewish Question. I guess this makes sense in terms of what other philosophers read, but it still seems odd to me.
    (Sorry for any typos, writing on a phone.)

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  3. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Michael: I agree that pressure to immediately publish in those situations can be problematic, and that expectations should be reasonable. On the other hand, I also don’t think we should be dismissive of the accomplishments of people who can publish good work in graduate school or while carrying a heavy load. That does show something about them, and I fear that in some circles there is a stigma on people who publish early and often — as too mercenary or too professionalized or something. I would hope that hiring committees can see the value in both types of applicant and give everyone a fair shake. My post is really more about the expectations once one is already in a university job with research expectations and a moderate teaching load.

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  4. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Mike: The Manifesto. Marx wrote it before his 30th birthday.

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  5. Eric Winsberg Avatar

    The key line seems to me to be this one: “Both in the writing and in the reviewing, deep intellectual honesty and integrity are the only checks on quality. This cannot be hurried. Authors who discover their errors must be free sometimes just to start over.”
    The hidden premise here is that once one publishes, one will no longer be willing to find errors, start over, and be intellectually honest. Take away that premise and the worries seem ill-founded. After all, what’s the harm in publishing something premature if you will publish something even better later?
    So, I think a lot depends on how often one thinks that premise is true.

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  6. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Interesting point, Eric. I am inclined to think that we are generally less intellectually honest than we think we are; but I’m not sure that going into print makes the situation substantially worse. There is of course considerable, but resistible, pressure not to retract what you have said. On the other hand, I think that sometimes the relief of seeing your idea finally in print can give you some distance from it. It’s out there, on its own, to succeed or fail, and you can now turn to other things for a while and maybe come back to it fresh later.

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  7. Pavlos Avatar
    Pavlos

    I think the problem is a bit more complex. One can publish quite a lot by mastering the ability to play the game: identifying some current issue, mapping literature, identifying an available position to occupy (coining some -ism along the way) and writing it out and publishing. And then rehashing and refining it… Being a good soldier. A philosophy work-horse. Adding a little piece of sand to the pile. But is that doing philosophy? Is it doing something meaningful for oneself and for others? I think maybe not (though I might be wrong), but then what choice do I have if I am forced to publish at a quick pace? I cannot afford to re-think issues, to ask new questions. Maybe some people can, they might be faster and smarter. But what if I am more like some of those that take 10, 15 years to come up with an idea? So philosophy turns into sophistry and I go along with it…
    This is perhaps too pessimistic, but philosophy, good philosophy, doesn’t come easy and it doesn’t come fast. But one cannot afford it – so one gets stuck with easy and quick. And a lot of forgettable articles one has to read and write. Unless one gets to be at All Souls…

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  8. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Pavlos, right, I guess that’s more or less Millikan’s perspective — or at least her worry! Just to be extra clear: I don’t think 1-2 articles a year is reasonable to expect from people with heavy teaching loads. The post is more about professors at places with moderate loads and substantial research expectations.

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  9. Charles Pigden Avatar

    The following is an edited version of post from Leiter that I wrote in response to Robert Pasnau who had argued that it is a good idea to do some history of philosophy before rushing into print with ideas of your own on the grounds that few philosophers produce really good work before the age of 35. I have cut out a couple of comments that are not germane to the present discussion, focusing on the factual issue.
    ‘If you think you have original philosophical thoughts in you, they can wait – indeed, it’s better to let them wait until you’ve had the chance to develop the philosophical breadth and depth to make the most of them.’ This is bad advice in itself but it based a factual claim which betrays an extraordinary ignorance of what Professor Pasnau believes we should all know more about, namely the history of philosophy. I’ll concentrate on the factual claim since once this has been refuted, the advice looks a lot less plausible. According to Professor Pasnau ‘there are a few examples of philosophers who have done important original work in their 20s and early 30s [Hume being the chief], but the list is not long’. Let’s see if we can lengthen that list. Please note that in many cases I don’t have exact dates of birth or exact dates of publication to hand and have assumed that if a book or paper was published in the year that a philosopher turned 25 it was published after his or her 25th birthday. This means that several of the philosophers I mention were even younger than I suggest when they published their ‘original and important ‘ works. Let’s begin with Berkeley. He published most of the works for which he is chiefly remembered – ‘The Principles of Human Knowledge’, ‘Three Dialogues’ and ‘A New Theory of Vision’ – before the age of thirty. Hutcheson’s ‘An Inquiry into the Originals of our Ideas of Beauty and Virtue’ was published in 1725 when he was 31. Fichte published ‘Concerning the Concept of the Wissenschaftslehrewhen’ he was 32. Schopenhauer published ‘The Fourfold Root’ and the first volume of ‘The World as Will and Representation’ before the age of thirty-one, and, as he himself insists, these works contain the basis of his philosophy. (His later works merely develop and illustrate his earlier ideas.) Kierkegaard published ‘Either/Or’ when he was thirty. By the time he was thirty Marx had published ‘The Holy Family’ and ‘The Poverty of Philosophy’ and had written ‘The German Ideology’ (which I certainly regard as an important work). Nietzsche’s ‘The Birth of Tragedy’ was published in 1872 when he was twenty-eight. Bradley’s ‘Ethical Studies’ was published in 1876 when he was 30. Moore was thirty in 1903 when ‘Principia Ethica’ was published, though many of the main ideas had been worked out several years earlier. By the time he was thirty, Russell had published ‘German Social Democracy’ (whose critique of Marxism is still worth reading), ‘An Exposition of the Philosophy of Leibniz’, and ‘An Essay on the Foundations of Geometry’ as well as writing most of ‘The Principles of Mathematics’ and discovering Russell’s Paradox. By the time he was thirty Wittgenstein had written both the ‘Notes on Logic’ and the ‘Tractatus’, which was published in book form in 1922 when he was thirty-three. All Ramsey’s brilliant works were written before age of twenty-six when he died. Ayer’s ideas were not very original, but such as they were they were developed early, since ‘Language Truth and Logic’ (the only book for which he will be remembered) was published in 1936 when he was twenty-six. Quine’s most important and best article, ‘Truth By Convention’, was published in 1936 when he was 28. Goedel proved the completeness of the predicate calculus when he was 23 and the incompleteness of arithmetic when he was 25. Popper’s ‘Logik der Forschung’ was published in 1934 when he was thirty-two. The Polish version of Tarski’s ‘The Concept of Truth’ was published in 1933 when he too was thirty-two. R.M. Hare’s ‘Imperative Sentences’ came out in 1949 when he was thirty and ‘The Language of Morals’ in 1952 when was 33. PF Strawson published ‘Truth’ and ’On Referring’ when he was thirty-one. Mackie published ‘A Refutation of Morals’, his first manifesto for the error theory, in 1946 when he as twenty-nine. (He would have probably published earlier had it not been for WWII in which he fought. The same is probably true of Hare and Strawson.) Kripke’s work on possible worlds semantics and the completeness proofs for modal logic was done when he was a teenager and his ‘Naming and Necessity’ lectures, which have revolutionized philosophy, were delivered in 1970 when he was 29. They were based on ideas he had developed several years earlier in 1963-1964. David Lewis published ‘An Argument for the Identity Theory’ when he was 25, ‘Counterpart Theory and Quantified Modal Logic’ when he was 27, ‘Convention’ when he as 28, and ‘Counterfactuals’ when he was 32. Since philosophy has ceased to be an exclusively male preserve, we can now add some girl-wonders to the list of boy-wonders. Ruth Barcan Marcus’s pioneering papers on quantified modal logic were published in 1946 and 1947 when she was about twenty-six. Coming right up to the present, Gillian Russell must have been about thirty (certainly not much older) when she published ‘Truth in Virtue of Meaning’ in 2008 (and if you don’t think this is an important and original work, you don’t know what important and original work is). By the time she was thirty, Carrie Jenkins had published sixteen papers and a book and they look pretty interesting to me. If I was a little less addicted to the history of philosophy myself and a little more au fait with what it going on now, I could probably add more high-achieving young women to the list. Come to think of it, Elizabeth of Bohemia began her correspondence with Descartes (which kicks off with a devastating criticism to which Descartes responds with mere blather) when she was only 25. 


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  10. Charles R Avatar
    Charles R

    What is reasonable to expect from people with heavy teaching loads?

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  11. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Thanks for that terrific list, Charles Pidgen! I think there’s a lot to be said for young people just diving into the biggest issues, even if they can’t have the deep knowledge of tons of history that older philosophers have. There’s ALSO a lot to be said for the insight of older philosophers too. The field profits from having both types!
    The most influential piece I wrote when I was young was “A Phenomenal Dispositional Account of Belief” (drafted in 1995-1996, when I was 27-28, as part of my dissertation, published in 2002). I don’t think I would have written it as well, or maybe even written it at all, if I had known HH Price’s 1969 book on belief. I think my paper would have been loaded with thoughts and structures from that earlier work, which were better pared away, and it would have been less simple and fresh. I was lucky, I think, that my ignorance in this case proved beneficial to the quality of the work. Presumably, just as often or probably more often ignorance of relevant predecessors has a negative influence on the quality of work. So I’m not recommending ignorance. But I think the best approach is to dive in right away as best you can, while simultaneously learning the history of the field; your work won’t necessarily be worse and might even, if you’re lucky, sometimes be better.

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  12. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Charles R: Anything down to zero, depending on the load! There’s nothing wrong with not publishing at all, if teaching is your focus. I would agree with Millikan and others that if what you really care about is teaching, then publishing mediocre stuff to please administrators is probably not good for the field. But if you have the passion for research, then I’d say try to find the time to publish what you can — and, for reasons I mentioned in my response to the other Charles, I would encourage you to dive right in and not be intimidated by the advice of people who think you should first fill yourself in on the entire history of the field.

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  13. Derek Bowman Avatar

    Except that without publications your chances of landing a teaching job with job security and/or a living wage are next to zero.

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  14. Joe Avatar
    Joe

    Concerning the list: a lot of it is in formal phil/logic – which is close to mathematics. Technical issues are different – young mind might even have an advantage. But compare Berkeley – he had clever ideas, but I doubt he is a philosopher read widely for the depth of his thinking and opening of new ways of thinking in the way Plato, Kant, Hegel, or Husserl is. Nietzsche was considered exceptional person very early on (the rare genius in humanties)- hardly a model for others. In any case, the list seems to confirm that certain kind of philosophy is not badly served by the kind of pressures Millikan might have been worried about – technical pieces, ones that requires cleverness, but perhaps not life experience. But many enduring philosophical themes and problems are not of that kind. In any case, the complaint of Millikan is not a new one – it’s the reason why Nietzsche, Descartes, Rousseau and many many others disliked academy already back in the day.

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  15. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Derek: I don’t think that’s true. UC Riverside hired two assistant professors this year. I don’t think either of them had a publication. (One had a forthcoming invited piece in a handbook, but that was not a major feature of his file.) Nor do community colleges de facto require publication for hire. I don’t think UCR is wholly atypical among research universites, but that’s an empirical question. It would be interesting to look at the evidence! Even if publication is a positive feature in a file, as it should be, it’s not a sine qua non.

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  16. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar

    Joe: I am inclined to agree that there’s a tendency for work by younger philosophers to be either more technical, or more cut-the-gordian-knot simple, or to strike out into a new area, while work by older philosophers tends to be more nuanced and complex. It would be interesting to try to verify this empirically.

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  17. r Avatar
    r

    I strongly disagree with Millikan’s characterization of how philosophy works. As far as I can see, the works of feted visionaries like Kant, Hume, or whoever, are only possible against the backdrop of a great many more people working out the ‘small advances’ (or normal science, or whatever you want to call it). A discipline in which every practitioner was constantly trying to replace the foundations in favor of a new idiosyncratic approach would be utterly dysfunctional. Who would be there to figure out the details of that grand new vision, clarify the dialectical space between it and existing approaches, unearth the problems and determine how many epicycles are required to solve them, and so on? It’s only once the latter work is done that we can get things fully into view, and in so doing discover which exciting new ideas are have actual staying power.
    I would also add, as a purely pragmatic note, that even granting contra the above that our goal is to maximize our number of Kants and minimize our number of regular Janes, I think everyone trying to be like Kant is not even a good way to get more Kants; my department has been going through a painful process of shaking off its old culture, which was full of thoughts like those expressed in Millikan’s above–which tended much too often toward graduate students who neither produced anything nor became like Kant (I am happy to say that the change now seems very nearly complete).
    That being said, I nonetheless agree that the focus on publishing early and often may be deleterious for the profession as a whole. There is so much literature that it is very hard to keep up; I imagine everyone would probably be happier if they read half as many papers that were twice as good. Of course, whether such a tradeoff is possible is not obvious. But it strikes me that you can be worried about publications pressure without having anything like the picture of philosophy Millikan opens by endorsing.

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  18. Matt Avatar

    “I don’t think UCR is wholly atypical among research universites, but that’s an empirical question.”
    For what it’s worth, Penn has hired exactly 1 junior person since 2001 (the year I started in grad school there) w/o a publication- a person this year. That doesn’t establish causation, of course- the people Penn has hired have all been very good, and it could be that their goodness explains both their being hired their and their having publications pre-hire (often several), but it’s hard not to think that the publications had something to do with it. (If I’m counting correctly, only 1 out of 10 people didn’t have a pre-hire publication. Most of these people did not have a TT job before being hired at Penn, though some had post-docs. At least the large majority of people who came for job talks during the time I was a grad student there had publications as well.)

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  19. Derek Bowman Avatar

    No doubt I’m overgeneralizing from my own limited data set, but the presence or absence of publications is the most salient difference between the people I know who were highly successful on this year’s job market and those who weren’t. There are certainly exceptions, but graduate students who want a job would be foolish to prioritize teaching or their dissertations over getting a publication or two in the pipeline before going on the market.
    Also, when investigating 4/4 visiting lecturer positions at regional state universities, I often found the people currently in those positions had multiple publications on their cvs. Again the data set is small, and other interpretations are possible.
    As for community colleges – their heavy reliance on adjunct labor (perhaps as a budgetary necessity) makes it very difficult even for excellent teachers to secure full time work in that environment. But since I’m only familiar with unsuccessful applicants here, I can’t say what does make the difference for successful applicants.

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  20. C'mon? Avatar
    C’mon?

    Millikan is a great contributor to philosophy.
    But this is how it works:
    “Brand Blanshard, who had been a fellow Rhodes Scholar and tennis partner of my father’s, was chair of the Yale department, which might, in those days, have had something to do with it too.”

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  21. Charles Pigden Avatar

    Second installment following on from my first post
    There are two morals to my story. The first is a lesson for young philosophers. If you wish to defer developing your own ideas until you have acquired an in-depth historical education you are, of course, free to do so (though perhaps I should add that in so far as I have followed this advice it has been very bad for me). But don’t do it in the belief that few philosophers do important and original work in their twenties and early thirties. This is true only in the sense that few philosophers do important and original work PERIOD. The second goes to Pavlos’s claim that ‘philosophy, good philosophy, doesn’t come easy and it doesn’t come fast’. I’m not even sure about the ‘easy’ part, but as a generalization the idea that good philosophy doesn’t come fast is clearly false. For some people perhaps it doesn’t but for others – including some of the greatest of the great – philosophy, including good philosophy, comes out at a rapid rate.
    Let me add that there are also plenty of late–bloomers as well as boy or girl wonders history of philosophy, that is people who produce nothing much until they are middle-aged or even old but whose subsequent productions vary on upwards from the good to the great. Millikan herself provides a case in point. One might also cite Annette Baier, who published nothing at all until the age of 37, published her first book at the age of 56 and published four of her best books after she had retired to down here to Dunedin a the age of 66. Going back in History, Hobbes, Locke and Reid are all obvious examples of late-flowering talents. Hobbes published nothing of consequence until he was 41 and even that was a translation of Thucydides. His philosophical works all date from his fifties, his masterpiece Leviathan being published when he was 63. Locke published all the works for which he is now known after the age of 57 (though we know that some were drafted when he was in his late forties early fifties). Reid published the comparatively slight ‘Essay on Quantity’ when he was 38 but nothing more until the ‘Inquiry’ when he was 54. His greatest works, the two sets of ‘Essays’ were published when he was 75 and 78. Furthermore, at least with respect to the ‘Inquiry’, this was not a matter of sitting on ideas that he had had a lot earlier. Reid’s big conceptual breakthrough seems to have occurred in the summer of 1758 when himself was 48, probably as the result of reading the more epistemological bits of Price’s ‘Review of the Principal Questions of Morals’. {This last was published when Price was 35}
    But I am not sure that any of these examples really support Millikan’s thesis. The key question is this: Would it have HARMED the philosophical development of any of these late-bloomers had they been incentivized to publish a bit earlier? It’s hard to say for sure of course, but I think that answer is ‘no’. To begin with most of them were recognized as gifted from an early age, which means that they probably could have published if they had to even if the early publications would not have been up to their later work. But an interesting example in the connection is the case of Kant. Kant is generally regarded as a late-bloomer, and it is true that the works for which he is chiefly remembered were published from the age of 57 onwards. But the fact is that Kant was a pretty steady publisher from the age of 25 and that ONE reason for pushing out his early publications was probably that he needed something on his CV in order to get a decent job. His early works are now principally of interest to Kant scholars but I have never heard it argued that the relatively trivial productions of his youth retarded his intellectual development or hindered the production of his mature works. If this is right then it seems to me that Millkan’s talk of intellectual genocide is a little overblown. If she had been encouraged to produce when young it maybe that the works of the early Millikan would not have been up to her later stuff, but I see no reason to think that they would have been no good at all or that they would have made her later stuff worse.

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  22. Charles Pigden Avatar

    Reply to Joe;
    I suggest you re-check my list. It is true that lots of the boy and girl wonders that I listed are notable for ‘formal/phil logic’ work, but the idea that such work cannot open up new ways of thinking is simply absurd. But however that may be, the following young achievers were either NOT doing formal philosophy or were doing formal philosophy PLUS: Berkeley, Hutcheson, Hume (surely one of the biggest openers up of new ways of thinking ever) Fichte, Schopenhauer, Kierkegaard, Marx, Nietzsche, Bradley, GE Moore and Popper (whose Logik der Forschung is really a text in the Philosophy of Science). Russell’s first academic book was on Politics and one of Lewis’s early works was on Convention (a theme in the philosophy of the social sciences). So it is just not true that high achievement when young is the preserve of formal philosophers. There are plenty of counterexamples to that claim.

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  23. Charles Pigden Avatar

    Joe says that he ‘doubts whether Berkeley is a philosopher read widely for the depth of his thinking and opening of new ways of thinking in the way [that] Plato, Kant, Hegel, or Husserl is. In context the conversational implicature would appear to be that unlike Berkeley, Plato, Kant, Hegel & Husserl did not publish when young. We don’t know when Plato started to publish, but we do know that Kant’s first publication came out when he was 25 and Husserl’s first book when he was 32. Even Hegel, who was admittedly a bit of a laggard as compared with some of the others, did not wait THAT long to publish, since the Phenomenology of Mind came out when he was 36.

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