When I was an undergraduate at the University of Texas in the late 80s there was the huge fad of philosophers making fun of professors in other departments who had appropriated philosophical thinking for their own projects. 

Honestly, it's pretty easy work for people who spend their lives just studying philosophy to beat up on our brothers and sisters in humanities departments when they enter into conversation with a philosopher. The trick is to bracket the dialectical context of the appropriation as well as treat the norms relevant for engaging in those debates as if they are the same as writing good philosophy. With literarature department deconstructionism, this meant completely ignoring the context of New Criticism and the contribution that the appropriation of Derrida and De Man's writings made with respect to this background. 

As a result of the kind of methodological stupidity the revolution very quickly began eating its own,* culminating perhaps in the 1992 petition against awarding Jacques Derrida an honorary Cambridge doctorate.  By this point it was clear that American philosophy had completely squandered a very real chance of retaining a role as queen of the humanities. If during theory's heyday, a critical mass of us had actually taken the time (a couple of years hard work in each case) to actually immerse ourselves in the relevant history and canonical texts of other departments doing "theory," philosophy would today widely be viewed as a helpful discipline, as opposed to this weird thing where we spin our own wheels.**

One of the most depressing things to me as a student of continental philosophy is to see how the worst aspects of the the analytic/continental rift are now being replicated within continental philosophy.


This is nowhere clearer than with respect to reactions to work coming out of the recent speculative (re)turn (as Merleau-Ponty actually made clear in his late Nature essays, this clearly goes back to Schelling and various other moments in the German Idealist tradition) in continental philosophy (Zizek, Johnston, Grant, Harman, Garcia, Meillassoux, etc. also strongly connected tied up with recent more metaphysical appraisals of figures such as Simondon, Deleuze, Badiou, and Laruelle, a more far reaching reapprasal of the phenomenological tradition (including Austrian phenomenology, which wasn't anti-metaphysics), a resurgence in study of the twentieth century German ontological tradition, parallel figures in analytic philosophy such as Nancy Cartwright and Graham Priest, as well as the re-emergence of German Idealism as a core area of study in analytic philosophy, due to people like Brandom, McDowell, and Beiser). As was the case during the glory days of deconstructionism and academic theory, the continental speculative resurgence  is now being picked up and used by theorists outside of philosophy departments.

This makes for exciting work for philosophers. Graham Harman, for example, gives over fifty papers a year, a strong plurality at non-philosophy departments (English, Art, Architecture, etc.). My own recent work in this area has seen me in the last two years present papers firmly in this continental speculative tradition at Theology, Theatre, and Narratology conferences. In each case I've had wonderful conversations with non-philosophers at very good Ph.D programs who are in various ways making use of current and historical figures from speculative metaphysics in the continental tradition.

But there are dangers.

Even when one is sympathetic to non-philosopher humanists, there's a real temptation here to try to present oneself as the philosophical expert in a way that precludes actually learning from people who work in other fields. That is, one can take one's job as a philosopher to just be lecturing at the unwashed masses from other humanities departments. Now, this is obviously just the opposite of that gelassenheit where true philosophy begins and ends. And equally importantly, it's a short step from this to the high church analytic philosopher's view of the philosophy professor as the cognitive policeman, or (more apposite) mullah issuing fatwas against first non-believers (humanities professors in other fields) and then believers (philosophy professors) who are deemed heretical in some manner.

Now, anyone who has followed the blogosphere over the past ten years, has seen evidence of what I'm describing with respect to humanists who situate there work with respect to the continental speculative tradition. It really has been an orgy of fatwas. Unlike Ray Brassier***, this has never bothered me very much, because there's a big difference between the blogosphere and actual academic conferences and publications. It's slightly more bothersome when one hears it at real academic conferences over drinks, but still, everyone is allowed their own views, and there's a vast difference between bloviating over alcohol and what we actually write in our papers and books.

But, with the publication of Nathan Brown's recent jeremiand against what he calls "object-oriented ontology" I'm starting to see a horizon where we reach a kind of John-Searle-versus-literary-theorists nadir. I don't now want to go into too many details now about how Brown so catastrophically misreads the target of his critique (a highly relevant paper by Mark Ohm and me is about to be published in Speculations and at the point where I can refer people to that paper, I'm going to do a post substantively correcting Brown's misunderstanding of Object-Oriented Ontology). 

The amazing thing about Brown's paper is that both moments of the analytic/continental split are compressed into one. While the entire paper is a Philosophy professor putting an English professor in his place for daring to appropriate philosophical themes in a way that does not match up to our high standards, this very appropriation is used to distort and malign the appropriated philosophers along the way.****

The distortion is arrived at in the traditional way, divorce the reading of both the humanist and philosophers from the dialectical context by which one must make sense of their views. I'm not an English professor, so I won't correct Brown here, but his distortion of the philosophy is so breath-taking that I can't see how the thing was published. Everything rests on one passage from Harman's Tool Being, when the position being considered (Harman's view on relations) is independently motivated at several places in his oeuvre, in particular his various detailed critiques of reductionism, causality, and aesthetics (the latter at least mentioned, but only for misleading condescending mockery). Levi Bryant is only discussed in a footnote, with no awareness that his Cartwrightean capacity metaphysics appoach to object-oriented ontology is motivated both these independent arguments and inconsistent with Harman on the very position Brown considers. The same holds with respect to Tristan Garcia (no slouch on the French scene), who is not cited or discussed by Brown.

Again, I don't want to defend Morton because I don't want to honor the attack, and thus reinforce the destructive view of the academic philosopher as a sort of a priori cognitive mullah with respect to other disciplines. Rather, I think our experience of the analytic/continental split and how ultimately injurious this was to both philosophy and the study of theory in other humanities departments, should motivate more general precepts about how philosophy professors ought to view their task via humanists.  

Mostly I"m just appalled that Parrhesia accepted an article that ends thusly:

“OOO” seems to be relatively popular at the moment. But obscurantism usually gleans the sort of popularity that  does not last. Despite the present popularity of “OOO” the conceptual weakness, the scholarly irresponsibility,  and the rhetorical desperation of Realist Magic offer ample evidence that it is not aging well. Academic theory will shortly try out a new flavor of the month—and the sooner the better, I suppose. It could not be more tasteless.

How do you get to conclude that an philosophy is "obscure" when you've reduced it to one paragraph of one book by one of the people working in that framework? How can you police other's critical engagements while yourself intoning this way? Does "OOO" have a good beat that one can dance to? As Jonny Cash would say, "fooey."

Though, honestly, if the choice is between "obscurity" according to the norms operating in this article and this kind of ham-fisted, condescending superciliousness, I'll pick the former. All of us who went through the vicissitudes of the analytic/continental divide know this in our bones already. It should not be a lesson that has to be relearnt.

[Notes:

*Come Thermidor!

**I realize there are huge counterexamples, especially with respect to the declining fortunes of "General Philosophy of Science." I'm going to do a blog post about this soon. I think there is some sense in which analytic philosophy as anything both distinctive and worthwhile is completely fading away as a result of the fortunes of GPS, or rather the inability of philosophers in other "core" areas to responsibly help themselves to distinctions and hypotheses from GPS.

***Friends of mine who know him have told me that when he made his now infamous (quoted both on wikipedia and approvingly by Brian Leiter) quip about there being no "movement" of Speculative Realism he actually meant to be primarily voicing frustration about the very possibility of doing philosophy on the internet, frustration brought about in part by people attacking speculative realism. For his quote to be recycled on the internet as part of such attacks is far more ironic than anything in the eponymous song.

****I want to speculate on the motives for doing this kind of thing, but I won't. Besides Marx's insight into their possible irrelevance in cases such as this, I think that motives for being a jerk to humanists and then applying this jerkiness to philosophy professors must be quite different with respect to the analytic/continental split and the continental/continental split. This is because continental philosophers recycling the old analytic tropes are themselves to some extent victims of those very tropes. Consider the recent supreme court decision in India re-criminalizing gay sex. The motives of Hindu nationalists appropriating aspects of colonial oppression (here Victorian attitudes about sex) and making those things paradoxically central to an understanding of what it is to be authentically Indian is of necessity interestingly different from those of the original oppressors.]

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51 responses to “How not to to engage with other humanists; Nathan Brown and the continental/continental divide”

  1. Terence Blake Avatar

    Hello Jon, I have always found you a quite reasonable interlocutor, so I am somewhat surprised by your virulence here. I see no harm in Nathan Brown’s calling OOO “obscurantist” provided that he has some sort of argument for it. I agree that the argument must apply to Harman’s positions and not be limited to scoring easy points against Morton. I personally think that some of Harman’s theses and arguments are obscurantist, and I have given my reasons in a number of places. I do not discuss Morton at all as, like you, I think he is doing something very different than philosophy most of the time (although there is his often repeated assertion that the Higgs boson would never be found because it is “correlationist”. As you talk about the importance of General Philosophy of Science I thought I should mention this a priori affirmation of Morton’s).
    I also find it surprising that you criticise Brown for basing his critiques on “one paragraph of one book by one of the people working in that framework” (this is false, in the first two pages Brown cites several passages from TOOL BEING) yet you do exactly the same thing, as you quote only one paragraph from Brown article.
    I think I must be older than you, since you refer to a fashion in humanities-bashing back in the 80s. I well recall the Althusserians doing that sort of thing in the 70s, using their sophisticated Continental epistemology bolstered with large helpings of Roy Bhaskar’s Critical Realism (yes Bhaskar was a Big Thing in the 70s in those circles!). The universal argument of that period was accusing people of working in the “problematic of the subject”. Nowadays the believers in OOO make exactly the same argument, but now the fault is called “correlationism” or “philosophy of access” or “anthropocentrism”.
    I fully agree with your plea for assimilating more “General Philosophy of Science” in other branches of philosophy, including ontology. This is what Harman tried to do in his little book THE THIRD TABLE on Sir Arthur Eddington’s paradox of the two tables. Unfortunately I find his contribution to the discussion in this book “obscurantist” to say the least, as I have indicated in my review of that book.
    On a personal note, I received my training in philosophy in Sydney University in the 70s, and as I specialised in philosophy of science I studied under Alan Chalmers and had many fruitful discussions with him. He supported me in my resistance to the Althusserian hegemony and always encouraged me in my work, despite my being more influenced by Feyerabend than he was prepared to be. I came to Paris in 1980 to attend Deleuze’s seminars, and I saw no problem in passing from Feyerabend to Deleuze (and back!). Yet I have been constantly hindered by the existence of a Continental /Analytic divide that for me has no justification. Like you I find not just the ignorance but the intellectually unsound and emotionallly immature nature of the arguments advanced by one side of the divide against the other a disgrace to thought.

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  2. Terence Blake Avatar

    It is amusing to note that in THE THIRD TABLE Harman declares that the humanities are reductionist, and that their objects are “utter shams”. Is this a case of humanities-bashing or a claim justified by his argument. I happen to think that Harman is totally justified in making global claims about whole domains such as “the humanities” and “the sciences”, and I have praised him for doing so, enjoying on Feyerabendian (and more broadly democratic) grounds Harman’s refusal to submit to the tyranny of the expert. I think that his actual arguments are wrong-headed and incoherent, but I maintain the principle, that is under attact today, that global objections can be both worthwhile and effective. If Harman can object that both the sciences and the humanities are reductionist, dealing in sham objects (global objection indeed) I do not see why Nathan Brown should be taken to task for makinng a few global negative judgements OOO. Of course to lay claim to be expressing himself as a philosopher he must justify his judgements with arguments, as do we all.

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  3. g shammgod Avatar
    g shammgod

    NATHAN BROWN is an Assistant Professor in the Department of English at UC Davis

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  4. Jonathan Avatar
    Jonathan

    Indeed. The attack on Morton is one English professor against another, and indeed one former colleague to another. We’re usually more polite! There’s been as of late a fair bit of OOO bashing from the Marxists as well, who don’t like to have the mantle of “materialism” taken from them.

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  5. Leon Avatar
    Leon

    Brassier asked me specifically not to bring up speculative realism, at all, when I interviewed him last year. His antipathy toward SR seems to be more than disgust with its online happenings. Just fyi from my experience.

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  6. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    The passage of Morton’s (cited in the review) discussing the Russell paradox is just cringe-worthy. Maybe I’m being unfair, but when fairly simple mathematical results like that are so badly mangled, I’m not exactly filled with confidence that this is a rich literature worth exploring.

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  7. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Ha! Shows what I know.

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  8. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Dan,
    This is exactly what Sokal and Bricmont do in “Fashionable Nonsense” and by common consensus of everyone who works on Deleuze, Derrida, etc. (and people who don’t work on them but who have just charitably read, for example, books by Samual Wheeler and Lee Braver) it’s extraordinary misleading.
    When me and Ohm’s Speculations piece comes out I’ll do a bigger post on why I do think there is a rich literature worth exploring in the recent speculative return. There’s no way to back that up in a blog post, but our paper has a Whig history that I think does back the claim up to any fair minded person.

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  9. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Terrence,
    Let me make clear that I don’t think that every informed person of good will has to be a fan of Harman, Nor to agree with him about relations. I generally find your criticisms interesting and often helpful.
    I maybe should have made clear that, like Bryant and Garcia, I’m not committed to Harman’s views about relations (though unlike Brown I find the view plausible and interesting in part because I’ve bothered to read Harman’s other work before publishing on it). As a result I don’t think that Brown is at all crazy in his worries about Tool Being. Again though, there is no citation of other places where Harman provides independent arguments for the view! And Brown takes himself to be scoring points against all of the people working on object oriented ontology. This is just madness.
    And citing one paragraph from a paper in a blog post about that paper is quite different from citing one paragraph from an extensive oevre to support claims about not only that oevre but every other philosopher working in these areas.
    Importantly, I stand behind my claim that the acceptability of these kinds of sweeping denunciations based on uncharitable and highly selective readings have been devastating for academic philosophy, and should be called out.
    I’m not going to say that Brown had no business writing it, because we’ve all written stupid things and in fact the only way to write anything deep is to be willing to write stupid things. But I will do think that Parrhesia had no business publishing it, especially given that the instanced trope has been so destructive to theory broadly construed.

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  10. Terence Blake Avatar

    Yes, but I predict that this future paper will contain no defence of Morton’s pronouncements on logic, set theory, or physics, as none can be given, and you are aware of that. The comparison with Deleuze and Derrida fails as there are no howlers of that magnitude.

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  11. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Terrence,
    I just don’t think my job as a philosopher is to do this kind of policing. As a result I’m extremely hesitant to write this, but I will. Have you read the Sokal/Bricmont book? (1) I think that Sokal and Bricmont actually do illustrate a number of howlers far worse than the least charitable interpretation one can put on Morton’s claims (though to be fair to your claim, they are weakest on Derrida). (2) Charitably read and in context I don’t think Morton is saying crazy things.
    But I’m not going to get into a debate about this, because I think it grants too much to the broader interpretive principles of Sokal/Bricmont and Brown, where you can focus on one bit of someone’s oevre out of context and damn whole intellectual approaches and the histories in which they are situated.
    That is, I think it’s a mug’s game to try to defend people against such uncharitable readings, because they aren’t offered in good faith in the first place and people who find them plausible with respect to certain figures aren’t going to change their mind. It also grants such strategies legitimacy that they shouldn’t have.
    Anyhow, please know that whatever you respond to this will be the last word. There are more interesting things to say about this, but I’ve exhausted anything that might come from my keyboard.

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  12. venstel Avatar
    venstel

    What you call “Nathan Brown’s recent jeremiand ” is for me an excellent article that finally shows that Timothy Morton cartoon philosophy/theory is only a ridiculous and pretentious bad joke, as his blog clearly shows (no, I will not buy not only one of his books, et tant pis pour les citations)

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  13. Terence Blake Avatar

    I have no wish to have the last word once the conversation is over. So I will merely reformulate my preceding remark so as to have the second last word twice: Just as Morton predicted that the Higgs boson would never be found (he was wrong) I predict that the Cogburn Defence will never be found, i.e. a defence of Morton’s actual pronouncements on logic, set theory and physics. As to the Millian defence that Morton has the right to, and even should, intervene as a layman in expert debates because the tyranny of expert opinion is inimical to truth, I endorse it, and so do you, I think, because all your arguments are at this level of generality. What I do not endorse is the use of this principle to immunize Morton from criticism. The Millian defence is meant to increase testability, not diminish it. So I predict that in the case of Morton’s specific pronouncements on these domains (logic, set theory, physics) no Cogburn Defence will be found.

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  14. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Good for you!

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  15. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    I’m not having the last word, because this isn’t within the original dialectic.
    I just wanted to thank you for engaging in a characteristically nice way here. As with other times we’ve gone back and forth, I find your interventions interesting, thought provoking, and helpful.

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  16. Daniel Nagase Avatar
    Daniel Nagase

    Jon (if I may),
    I think this is an important post, for some of the issues it raises. I agree with you that, generally speaking, Sokal/Bricmont’s tactics are actually harmful to the discipline, for precisely the reasons you raised (specially the pernicious academic atmosphere it promotes). However, I would say that the main problem is not so much in Sokal/Bricmont’s arguments against (say) Deleuze, but rather in the disparaging tone adopted by them, including the (to my mind) unfair charge that Deleuze et al were charlatans and just plain dishonest. In other words, as someone who has worked a lot in the Deleuzian tradition, I actually think that Sokal/Bricmont did do a great service to us, a service that was unfortunately overshadowed by the great disservice of their tone. The good service was this: they made us think through Deleuze’s use of mathematical techniques in his text, instead of simply taking them at face value (De Landa’s work here is exemplary).
    Which brings me to my next point. I know there are some important stylistic issues here, but I really don’t think that Deleuze’s particular style should be emulated. Something that is really a pain in the ass while reading Deleuze is to try to make sense of his many gnomic remarks about very complex problems. It’s true that many of them have actually gotten me to think more thoroughly about a certain subject; however, others serve more to hinder than to aid thinking, particularly when it comes to technical matters. The same is, I think, also true of Morton’s piece. Having read the context surrounding the quotation in Brown’s article (but not the whole book!), I must say that it made matters even more confusing. Morton runs together: Cantor sets, true contradictions, alternative set theories beyond ZF, transfinite numbers, and Russell’s paradox all in one densely packed paragraph. Even if he’s technically correct in all those accounts (and I don’t think he is), that’s not the most helpful way to guide the non-mathematician through all these matters, is it?

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  17. Terence Blake Avatar

    As you have walked through the door into the great outdoors, or at least into the outdoors relative to the original dialectic, I can thank you for always having admitted I exist (some of the OOO brotherhood are quite correlationist in this regard, thinking that they can banish me into non-existence by subjective fiat). And it’s nice to be treated as making useful contributions, instead of having my arguments called “madness”, “streams of nonsense”, “vicious drivel”, etc. So I can understand you being riled when you consider that stigmatising rhetoric is prevailing over reasoned argument. I quite accept that one can do “non-Harmanian” OOO (dare I say in the same sense of “non-” that Laruelle employs in his notion of non-philosophy) that is not necessarily anti-Harmanian. I would like to hear you more on Garcia than on a polemic that has very little to do with you indeed.

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  18. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Daniel,
    Awesome, thanks. That’s really interesting to think about.
    I agree with you about the tone and charges of Sokal/Bricmont, but I think I might be bothered more was the presupposition that what they exposed had very much to say about the philosophers in question, as if Julia Kristeva’s whole corpus could be rejected because she said completely inane (and clearly false!) things about the Axiom of Choice.
    Again, I’m pretty hesitant to use this to get into a debate about Morton. My problems with Brown’s piece are consistent with Brown being right about all of the specific Sokal/Bricmont type examples he adduces (again, I think Sokal/Bricmont were largely right about Kristeva’s matheme, but that it should have been obvious that nothing interesting followed from that).
    And remember that Brown uses his critique of Morton’s mathemes to make a widespread denunciation of object oriented ontology, which not only grossly unfairly includes Morton’s entire project, but also includes a lot of philosophers and theorists that I can only gather Brown hasn’t read (footnoted Levi Bryant quote actually proves this, because Bryant defends a capacity metaphysics (of the type critiqued by Harman) under the rubric of “object oriented ontology.” As far as I know, Harman has never said that Bryant doesn’t count as OOO, but rather just noted where they disagree).
    What you write about tone is interesting in itself. I go mad sometimes reading people that seem to influenced to me by Derrida’s style. But then I just got a paper rejected where the reviewers excoriated me for irritating Zizekian tropes. The thing was, I wasn’t at all aware I was doing that! I was just reading a lot Zizek when I wrote the paper, and the tropes unconsciously seeped in. Had I been aware, I would have either not submitted the paper to an analytic journal or I would have changed it quite a bit (doing the latter right now).
    As John Calvin used to say, when you read the book it’s also reading you.
    Some Derrida scholarship I’ve read (Norris, Eagleton, Wheeler, Hagglund, Braver, etc.) and all of the Deleuze scholarship I’ve read at this point is pretty remarkable in the ability to develop the key ideas in a more accessible idiom. It’s really interesting to hear that Sokal/Bricmont might have worked as a positive spur with respect to so much of the great flowering in contemporary Deleuze scholarship and studies. This would be an important corrective to the universality of some of the claims I made in the OP. I still think that the academic acceptability of the kind of critique Brown is engaging in were largely poisonous. But to the extent that Sokal/Bricmont did have the result you describe, I can’t say they were entirely poisonous.

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  19. Bob C Avatar
    Bob C

    Well, I’ve read Morton’s book as well as Brown’s article, and I really don’t see that Brown is being too hard on Morton. Morton’s book is an appalling mishmash of bad science and bad philosophy. Brown calls him out on specific details — none of the passages he quotes are taken out of context, as near as I can tell. The tone is harsh, certainly, but then it’s an assistant professor taking a harsh tone with a senior faculty member (and not shouting down a grad student, for example). All of this seems fine to me, a good thing even, since bad work deserves to be attacked. Maybe the tone is too harsh, but that doesn’t really bother me.
    Brown’s attack on OOO more generally is another matter, I suppose. I’ve read only Harman’s first two books, and the criticisms that Brown provides of TB seem to me solid. I also see that Brown has taken part in (or organized) a number of conferences that have also included Harman and Bryant; and, as you mention, he’s a former colleague of Morton. So I doubt that he’s poorly read in things OOO. I’d like to hear specifically where you think his criticisms go astray, in part because I doubt we’ll be seeing a response from Harman (any more than we saw a response from Harman to Brassier’s piece in the Speculative Turn collection). Again, I’ve only read TB and GM, so if Harman addresses in his more recent work the problems that Brown finds in those texts, I’ll stand corrected.
    Two other comments:
    1) Certainly, Harman isn’t Morton, and I doubt that Brown could do as easily with Harman’s work what he does with Morton’s. However, Morton’s book was published in Harman’s series, which makes me wonder if your being appalled that Parrhesia accepted Brown’s article couldn’t also be directed at Harman for accepting Morton’s book. I also remember both Harman and Bryant endorsing Morton’s work on their blogs, though perhaps Bryant at least had not yet read it.
    2) I don’t think that the comparison to Sokal (or to Leiter) can really work here. Both Sokal and Leiter have tended to dismiss an entire national philosophical tradition—one which includes structuralism, Marxism, psychoanalysis, phenomenology, deconstruction, semiotics, etc.—based on (for Sokal) a handful of bad uses of math or (for Leiter) a first reading of Derrida’s Nietzsche book. OOO, as far as I can tell, comprises four or five members with relatively homogeneous positions (though this is less and less true for Bryant, who seems to be trying to distance himself from OOO).

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  20. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Bob,
    Oh man thanks. That’s all great stuff.
    Again, as a philosopher I just don’t think it’s my job to police people in other departments. I mean, it’s very bad for me as a philosopher because then I’m only learning from other philosophers. If I read or hear a work of theatre theory as if I’m reading another philosopher it’s always extraordinarily easy respond to it the way analytic philosophers often respond in Q&As at APAs, but to be even more condescending because the theatre professor in question just isn’t going to be nearly as good at me or other philosophy professors (analytic or continental) at mobilizing her forces defensively so as to be less immune to supercilious critique.
    But I find this kind of thing at best extraordinarily unhelpful, both at APAs and when philosophers interact with other professors. At worst, it’s pathological in some of the ways I outlined above.
    Harman’s books on Meillassoux, Latour, and Lovecraft are pretty uniformly excellent as are the pieces in “Toward Speculative Realism.” The meditations on reductionism throughout as well as those on causation provide separate motivations into his strange views on relations. The former is described in me and Ohm’s forthcoming Speculations piece as well as referenced in our translator’s introduction to Garcia’s book. In a paper we’re working on now, Graham Bounds and I reconstruct some of Harman’s arguments about causation in terms of Scholze’s early “affection argument” response to Kant. The ties to German Idealism are interesting and profound. When Bounds and I finish our paper I’ll blog about it. When the Speculations piece comes out in the next few weeks I’ll do a post on this.
    I do recognize the disanalogies to Sokal and Leiter that you bring out. In this very context it’s highly relevant Leiter’s insulting words are typically about the speculative turn itself, which ooo is just one small part of.
    Leiter almost always justifies not doing the fieldwork that anyone else in the discipline would take to be necessary by going back to his thing where he’s just a neutral reporter of what the philosophical hive mind thinks. But the problem is he often endorses what the hive mind supposedly thinks merely based on the fact that they do. Also, his hive mind is highly selective (check out the PGR advisory committee on continental philosophy and then talk to some actual French philosophy professors to find out how representative the group is).
    This being said, I think the analogies between Sokal/Bricmont and Leiter and Brown are strong enough to warrant my dismay. Again, we get sweeping denunciations that only seem plausible because they are based on radically incomplete presentations of the relevant evidence.

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  21. Daniel Nagase Avatar
    Daniel Nagase

    Jon,
    Interestingly, your complaint over Sokal/Bricmont reminded me of Foucault’s similar accusation towards Derrida in his reply to the latter’s reading of Folie et déraison, namely, that Derrida’s reads his text through a peculiar mixture of the Freudian slip and the Christian sin:
    “Because to err against philosophy is something akin to a slip, it is, like the slip, revealing: the smallest rip is enough to tear the whole piece down. And, since to err against philosophy is something akin to the Christian sin, it is enough for there to be just one mortal sin, and no salvation is possible.”
    I do agree with you that this type of uncharitable reading should be avoided — which is not to say, again, that specific or technical problems shouldn’t be pointed out, in a more constructive manner. This brings me to my next point.
    A couple of weeks ago (I think it was a couple of weeks ago), Schliesser posted a review of McGinn’s work which chastised him for his purporting to write a book on the philosophy of physics while being completely ignorant of basic physics. The review also pointed out the absurdity of such a work being published by a major publisher such as OUP. Now, there are some obvious disanalogies here, but nevertheless I think one could point out that there is also some fault in Morton’s peers (specially the publisher) for not calling him out in his most egregious mistakes. Again, this has nothing (specifically) to do with SR or OOO or Harman; rather, it’s just another instance of a book that clearly could have profited from a more thorough review process (those paragraphs clearly shouldn’t have been left there as they are).
    This isn’t meant as a defense of Brown, or Sokal/Bricmont, or Leiter, for the matter. I agree that the sweeping generalizations are not particularly helpful. However, I do think Brown was correct in calling Morton out for the mistakes in his book, even if this could have been done in a more constructive manner.

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  22. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Just in terms of general principles, everything you write here seems true to me.
    Part of why I’m loathe to comment too much on Morton is that I’m getting some e-mails from people who have read all of his books that say Realist Magic contains valuable material when read in concert with his other works, and that Brown really does botch this (over and above fallaciously condeming all of Morton based on one work, something no one did with regard to Colin McGinn’s trilogy). But I don’t have enough familiarity with Morton’s work to make this case, and again it would put me in the role of a philosopher playing a kind of game I don’t think philosophers should be playing.*
    But what you describe here is a role that philosophers should be playing, and as you write one that can be played in the context of charitable engagement.
    [Note:
    *I hope that it is clear that the irony of me saying this, given that Brown is an English professor, is not lost on me. In part I assumed he was a philosophy professor because all of the articles I’ve read in Parrhesia have been by philosophy professors. In part though because he does succeed so well at instancing so well the philosophy professor trope I discussed above. This is a tribute of sorts to the thing.**
    **Second irony. In praising Brown for passing the philosophy department bar I once again instantiate that which I decry. Oh well. Instantiating the decried is the fate of all decryers.]

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  23. Eric Brown (Budapest) Avatar

    Jon,
    I was interested in Harman from the online hype and some of his statements about academia that make some sense, still now. But when I read in a paper of his that no one has confronted the issue of causation in post-Kantian philosophy (or something very close to that effect) I just gave up. The causal or lack thereof relations between the phenomenal and noumenal was an important issue in the 19th century and many analytic philosophers have devoted substantial parts of their careers to the notion.
    I have no antipathy whatsoever to continental philosophy, though, if you pushed me I would say I was an analytic. I had multiple seminars on Heidegger, seminars on Merleau-Ponty, Benjamin and Adorno, and I’m very glad I did. But Harman does not engage this tradition in good faith, nor its bases in Hegel or Husserl. (I’m aware of his non-standard take on Heideggger.)

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  24. Eileen Joy Avatar

    Dear Jon: thank you very much for this post. Agreed on all counts, and disappointing as always to see the comments thread, which is why I avoid blogs most of the time now, but can’t avoid great posts like this. Apologies in advance to everyone who thinks, and will probably say, I am a jerk. CHEERS! xoxo, Eileen Joy

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  25. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Eric,
    I am a fan of yours so please don’t take this the wrong way, but I think your response here illustrates the problem. You are judging a philosopher’s entire oevre on the basis of one claim.*
    In some ways this is a problem endemic to an age of celebrity, we all end up judging people entirely on the basis of the worst thing they’ve done, or even just some slip that we can mock, which just strikes me as crazy.
    As with Terence above, please have the last word on this, and just to be clear about the spirit in which I write this, also realize that that you are one of my top five discussers on Newapps and nothing you are going to say in this context will change that.
    *FWIW- Harman’s interaction with Husserl is the basis of one half of his fourfold metaphysics, and he has a long non-published dialogue with people working in German Idealists (e.g. Grant, Zizek, and Markus Gabriel), some of whose work he edits. I also have a pretty extensive e-mail correspondence with him on the relation between his work and German Idealism, which is coming to fruition in a paper I’m writing with Graham Bounds on the affection argument and Harman’s claims about causality. Harman has been nothing but helpful even with respect to pretty critical e-mails and my growing understanding of Hegel and German Idealism owes no small part to his help. I don’t know if this latter bit is relevant, but again I just think that when we take it upon ourselves to issue these kinds of sweeping judgments we almost automatically end up not viewing things correctly, and I think that your concluding thing about Husserl and Hegel is a good example of this.

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  26. Eileen Joy Avatar

    And Nathan Brown is an English professor, by the way — this doesn’t affect the nature of his critique but what it does mean is that this is not a [repeat] case of a philosopher being unsympathetic to literary theory; rather, it is a case of someone within literary studies not liking how one literary theorist has appropriated OOO.

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  27. Eileen Joy Avatar

    Also, I feel obliged to second Terence Blake’s very factual observation regarding Harman’s bashing of literary theory, which has happened often. I am a great admirer of Harman’s and also want to believe we are friends — I am quite fond of him as a person, not to mention as a thinker, I must admit — but nevertheless, this bashing of others’s work comes from many different quarters. We should work harder, I think, to disagree with one another and still manage to approach each other’s work with some form of generosity. I will never believe in antagonism/”strong” critique as a way forward for the humanities. That’s just me — I get it.

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  28. Eileen Joy Avatar

    One other last thought, and this has to do with my own thinking lately on what I am provisionally calling “generous reading”: let’s say that Morton hasn’t the slightest idea what he’s talking about when it comes to physics [I myself am less enchanted with that part of his thinking/writing] — does that mean that all of his other ideas are de facto obviated/wrong? The answer, I think, is: no. But as a literary theorist I am really disenchanted with the idea of epistemological rigor/post-Enlightenment Project of Reason. I thought Foucault cured us of that, BUT at the same time even Foucault really believed in the RIGOR of thought/REASON. As a woman, as a queer, and as a hippie-dropout of the Academy, I reject Reason entirely. The truth is actually somewhere, and scholars like Morton, for all of their imperfections, get that. Harman is more invested in/wedded to the Enlightenment ideal of reason/rationality. But in any case, at the party at the end of the world, I want to be on their side of the dance floor.

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  29. Eileen Joy Avatar

    When I wrote “the truth is actually somewhere” in my last comment, I meant “somewhere ELSE” [other than in some sort of Reason-based argument].

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  30. Eventmechanics Avatar

    “Harman’s books on Meillassoux, Latour, and Lovecraft are pretty uniformly excellent as are the pieces in “Toward Speculative Realism.””
    I disagree with the above assertion. I am an interloper in this APPS blog space. First, let me say as a community you mostly have excellent manners when discussing philosophical issues. This is admirable.
    Second, I was directed here by Terence. We have a shared antipathy to OOO. Mine is primarily because of Harman’s book on Latour, which I read to understand Bryant’s interest in OOO. Harman’s book on Latour ignores his Reassembling the Social and his work on Tarde. The most generous way I can describe this is to say Harman’s book reads like a jealous love letter written by someone angry about all the attention his love interest (Latour) gets from other scholars. It makes Harman’s blind to what he would arguably perceive to be his love interest’s faults. RtS was meant to be a practical guide to ‘doing’ ANT as a guide of methodology. It seems pretty clear to me that this would offer a condensed account of Latour’s work. Why is it absent from PoN? This is not explained anywhere. Would you give a student PoN to understand Latour’s work? Of course not, because you’d be practically disabling the student with a mutilated version of Latour’s work, and more importantly the shifts and reasons for those shifts in his thinking.
    Whatever you think about Deleuze, his method of reading other philosophers is exemplary. Toscano’s preface to Alliez’s Signature of the World discusses a particular practice of philosophical commentary, what Alliez calls onto-ethology. Onto-ethology attends to the intensive dimension of philosophical concepts, to their conditions of individuation. The opposite of this mode of commentary is the kind of commentary that Foucault described in A Discourse on Language, of ventriloquising the text to get it to say what you want it to say. To ignore the intensive dimension of concepts is to turn the concept into a ‘prospect’, this is Deleuze and Guattari’s attack in WiP? against propositional forms of philosophy (analytic, etc.) There are a number ways to think about Terence’s description of Harman’s work as obscurantist. I think of it as obscurantist because it reduces the philosophical concept as intensive multiplicity (with attendant focus on individuation of thought etc) to a superficial and propositional logic.

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  31. Dominic Fox Avatar

    I’ve viewed Morton’s book through two slits – the first being the handful of quotations in Brown’s review, the second being a collection of sentences containing the word “hyperobject”, mechanically harvested from the text. On the basis of that collection of sentences I thought I might enjoy reading the book; on the basis of Brown’s quotations, I knew there would be parts of it that would annoy me intensely. It wouldn’t be the first book I’ve had mixed feelings of that kind about. I do wish though that humanities folk would either acquire some basic competence in higher mathematics or just throw their hands up and admit it’s not important enough to them for them to put the hours in. This gesture of parading ignorance, making a virtue of not even caring enough to get it right, is not some sort of triumph of the anti-authoritarian creative spirit against the tyranny of uptight specialists – rather, it’s exactly the same kind of trolling that Fox News commentators make a living out of, and any decent person should feel bad about doing it.

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  32. r Avatar
    r

    Like Dominic, I think the intellectual sin involved in the ‘howlers’ about math and science here is actually incredibly serious. I would liken it to plagiarism and fabrication. Specifically, I would point out that even if the plagiarized or fabricated portions of the text are relatively minor, and it contains a great many other original insights, the fact of plagiarism and fabrication is deeply disturbing and calls for aggressive sanctions–at the very least it calls for naming and shaming. So I have trouble getting on board with the defense that Morton (or Kristeva, or whoever) has contributed many deep and important ideas and therefore that it is somehow small or mean-spirited to harp on the technical blunders. That flies for me about as well as the same about plagiarism or fabrication.
    I also don’t see how disciplinary boundaries provide excuses here. It doesn’t matter what department he’s in, Morton took it upon himself to make claims about Russel’s paradox. He wrote about it in a manner implying expertise. In doing so, he opened himself up to being savaged by the actual experts, regardless of where they reside. I also don’t see what English professors could possibly be wanting to be doing such that it could rest on, for its argumentative structure, various awful misappropriations of mathematical and scientific results.
    Plagiarism and fabrication typically are errors of bad faith, at least at the level of professional academic (this can be less clear for students). For professionals, the person committing them understands and intends to commit them. This is not always so with technical blunders. Sometimes well meaning experts make technical blunders! So one might think that’s a point of disanalogy. But these technical errors are SO EGREGIOUS that if they’re honest it’s only by virtue of extreme negligence. Regardless of how it happened, someone spoke authoritatively on something that they did not even rudimentarily understand, and then put that into the academic discourse. And even if unintentional, that sort of negligence is still (academically) criminal.
    Here are some harms, in no particular order, that I think are done by this type of technical abuse:
    1) the research program is discredited in the eyes of people with the technical facility to see through the bogus claims
    2) students with no technical background will absorb these claims and think they’re true
    3) students with no technical background will be intimidated out of the discussion by fraudulent appeals to nonsense formalism
    4) progress is held back by the perpetuation of indefensible claims
    5) the good-faith basis of the discussion is undermined
    As a philosophy student who is weak on formal elements, I am particularly sensitive to 2, 3, and 5. If I read these claims in a seminar, I would default to taking them as true–and If I couldn’t understand how, I would assume it was because I was too stupid to ‘get’ the formalism and feel discouraged from pursuing areas where people made such claims. I don’t know how many other people have the same dispositions.
    Anyway, I think that these sorts of factors (and how they line up with similar harms caused by plagiarism and fabrication) explain why it is worth getting really up in arms about them, even though, admittedly, it is perfectly possible for a work to contain many important and valuable insights quite generally despite being marred by ‘howlers’ about math and science.
    Anyway, this may come across as tin-eared, because I’m not a veteran of the bad old culture wars–but if calling a truce in them means not getting exercised about this sort of stuff (because not taking oneself to be policeman) then I think I’m more a hawk than a dove. Again, though, that’s easy for me to say and doesn’t mean as much given that I never had to live through them in the first place.

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  33. Jon Cogburn Avatar

    O.K. I really, really, really didn’t want to bite on this because I think this whole sort of discourse is exemplary of an intellectual cancer.
    But I call shenanigans to the claims about Morton that you are hypothetically taking to be true in you comment. I’ve just now read through every time Morton mentions Russell in the book. In no way does he get Russell’s Paradox wrong. The ties of Russell’s paradoxes to the other ones and the critique of meta-linguistic solutions are substantiated by Priest, whom Morton cites.
    From what I can tell, he is sometimes sloppy when reporting Goedel’s incompleteness theorem (he is not clear enough about the conditions under which an system is provably incomplete (i.e. consistency plus an r.e. set of theorems, or via Craig’s Theorem, axiomatizability), and about the connections between Cantorian diagonalization and the other results (he should just say more in this regard), but not grotesquely so and not as far as I can see in any way that materially undermines his project. Importantly, nothing I see comes anywhere close to the level of obvious nonsense that Sokal/Bricmont (excepting the discussion of Deleuze and Derrida) document, which in any case do not do the work that Sokal/Bricmont took them too.
    As far as your 1-5, Morton does cite and discuss Priest in the relevant places, and Priest does give detailed arguments against meta-linguistic solutions to all of the paradoxes Morton discusses. So I don’t see how students are being misled by Morton helping himself to the critique of such solutions. If the student isn’t willing to follow the clear citations, I don’t see how that’s the author’s fault.
    I’m going to read the book carefully and maybe expand this into a blog post, though (again) I hate dignifying Brown’s article with a substantive response. Maybe it’s O.K. to do in a blog post as opposed to a response article. Maybe it might be helpful to have a detailed explanation from someone with (I assume) better logic chops than Brown and who is also sympathetic to the problem space Morton is occupying. In any case, from reading through the bits on Russell, especially the five non-trivial mentions in the introduction, Morton is not getting anything involving the paradoxes obviously wrong.
    Again I hate this kind of thing. Newapps’ reading group of one chapter of Paul Livingston’s recent masterpiece (http://www.newappsblog.com/2012/03/new-apps-symposium-on-paul-livingston-derrida-and-formal-logic.html) constantly got derailed by people assuming that the proper response was to question Livingston’s logic chops.* It was a real drag, as was the scilogic newsgroup discussion of whether Badiou really understood math a few years ago. When we do this kind of thing, we put ourselves in the position where it is apriori that we don’t learn from the people, but instead just satisfy or not our command that they would pass exams we pose for them. What a parody of philosophical engagement.
    [Notes:
    *Which are considerably better than mine.]

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  34. Dominic Fox Avatar

    OK, let’s take a look at this:
    “The set of real numbers contains the set of rational numbers but is infinitely larger, since it contains
    numbers such as Pi and the square root of 2. There appears to be no smooth continuum between such
    sets. So the set of real numbers contains a set that is not entirely a set of itself—the set of rational
    numbers sits awkwardly inside the set of real numbers, and it is this paradox that infuriated logicians
    such as Russell. Their ‘solution’ is to rule this kind of set not to be a set—which is precisely to miss
    the point.”
    Sentence 1 is unobjectionable: Q is indeed a subset of R.
    Sentence 2 is a little hard to decipher – what would it mean for there to be a “smooth continuum” between two sets? Perhaps what’s being referred to here is the continuum hypothesis. Because the cardinality of the rationals is the same as that of the integers – the rationals are countably infinite – and the continuum hypothesis is that there is no set whose cardinality is strictly between that of the integers and that of the real numbers, it seems as if there’s a “leap” in cardinality between that of the countably-infinite Q and that of the uncountably-infinite R. Intuitively, we think of the continuous as that which contains no “leaps”, so maybe that’s what’s meant. It’s a bit of a stretch though.
    Sentence 3 we can break down into three parts, starting with 3.1: “the set of real numbers contains a set that is not entirely a set of itself”. This is an odd way of putting it. The set of rational numbers is a quite trivially separable subset of the set of real numbers (take the reals, and select every element z such that there exist an integer x and a non-zero integer y, such that z = x / y). I don’t know what “entirely a set of itself” is meant to mean: all rational numbers are also real numbers, so it’s not as if the rationals are some kind of foreign admixture stirred into the reals – it’s not needles in a haystack, but hay in a haystack.
    Is it remarkable that an uncountably-infinite set has a countably-infinite subset? Apparently it is, according to 3.2: “the set of rational numbers sits awkwardly inside the set of real numbers”. Awkwardly how? And how can this be, as per 3.3, the “paradox that infuriated logicians such as Russell”? Firstly, there is no paradox here (or at least, it has not been demonstrated that there is any paradox); secondly, Russell’s paradox is about something completely different. (Note that the reals “contain” the rationals as a subset – Q is included in R. They do not “contain” the rationals as an element – Q does not belong to R. It’s important not to get these two kinds of “containing” mixed up). Russell’s paradox concerns “the set of all sets that do not belong to themselves” – but it is not the case that the relationship between Q and R induces a paradox of this kind.
    It seems as if Morton’s trying to generate woo out of the fact that a set of things of one kind has a subset of things of the same kind, with a different cardinality. There is really no woo to be had here. Sentence 4 refers I think to the way Z-F uses the axiom of separation to restrict which sets can be said to exist, so that one cannot just spontaneously conjure up a paradoxical entity like “the set of all sets that do not belong to themselves”. This apparently is “missing the point” – excluding the woo by definition, rather than opening one’s heart to the possibility of the existence of woo. But even if you agree that Z-F unfairly subjugates the paradoxical, enforcing a bureaucratic consistency by axiomatic fiat, this is still entirely irrelevant to the example that’s just been discussed. That which was to have been demonstrated, has not been demonstrated. Some hand-waving has occurred, and some not particularly difficult concepts have been rather clumsily misrepresented. I don’t think this is an intellectually responsible way to proceed.

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  35. David Wallace Avatar
    David Wallace

    Maybe there’s a distinction to be drawn between public judgement on the one hand, and private/informal assessment on the other.
    I read Sokal and Bricmont some years ago and was completely appalled. They provided a pretty clear case that at least many of the authors they criticised were throwing around technical terms and concepts that they didn’t understand at all, and – more perniciously – were creating a false impression that they did understand them. As someone science-trained in the process of moving into philosophy, it was a deeply dispiriting experience.
    Now, that in no way entails that their targets’ writings don’t nonetheless contain material of great value. I’m not sufficiently informed to know, and so I certainly wouldn’t make any print statement of what I thought of the authors in question. The only real grounds to criticise someone’s writing is to have read and studied it.
    On the other hand, life is short, and there are far more things to read than I have time for reading. So inevitably I use filters. And one such filter is that if I have credible evidence that an author (a) is talking nonsense on some given topic, and (b) is willing to talk as if they have knowledge that they don’t have*, then ceteris paribus I’m going to deprioritise them for my attention. (Ceteris needn’t be paribus – someone whose judgement I antecedently trust could assure me that notwithstanding the nonsensical science and mathematics in (e.g.) Lacan, Lacan’s writings on other topics are well worth my attention.) Perhaps even as a heuristic this isn’t reasonable – and I’m happy to be told why – but use of some such heuristics is pretty unavoidable given the finitude of time.
    *This is the bit that I think distinguishes the sections of text that Sokal and Bricmont quote from, say, the way science is sometimes treated in contemporary analytic metaphysics. Some in the latter field say things that are flatly wrong on scientific grounds, but they don’t pretend to scientific knowledge they don’t have in doing so.

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  36. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Dominic,
    Yes, but Russell’s Paradox does do exactly what Morton alleges throughout (it both is and isn’t a member of itself), and what he does with this is broadly along Priestian lines.*
    More generally, there were four interrelated engines of German Idealism: schematism/rule following issues, problems of teleology, the affection argument, paradoxes of totality (what Priest calls “Kant’s Fifth Antinomy”). A minimally charitable and informed read of Morton situates his response to paradoxes of totality in terms of these issues. Minimally charitable because it should be clear to anyone who follows his citations and clear to anyone who has cursory knowledge of how such paradoxes worked within German Idealism.
    [Notes:
    Which is *not to say that Priest would endorse this use of his work. Priest has naturalist sympathies of a type** entirely foreign to the continental speculative tradition.
    **Obviously there is some sense in which Schelling and his tradition leading through Deleuze is “naturalist.”]

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  37. Dominic Fox Avatar

    A correction: the book from which the “hyperobjects” sentences were mechanically extracted was the book “Hyperobjects”. So I was looking through two slits at two different objects.
    Here’s the extract:
    http://metopal.com/projects/hyperobjects.html
    Hyperobjects sound more than a bit like the hyperdemon that very nearly destroys New Crobuzon in China Mieville’s “Iron Council”.

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  38. Aaron Pedinotti Avatar
    Aaron Pedinotti

    I noticed my numbering was off in my previous version of this post. Please delete it, as I have pasted and corrected it here.
    Here are some thoughts on the substance of Brown’s own technical criticisms.
    First: one of the three main topics on which Brown criticizes Morton’s research is his presentation of Whitehead’s theory of time, the other two being his treatment of quantum physics and set theory. While I agree that there appear to be some problems with Morton’s claims regarding the latter two topics and think that he provides a somewhat superficial reading of Whitehead’s position on temporality, I also noticed that NB made a pretty serious error in his citing of Whitehead’s oeuvre (which is one that I have read pretty closely and written a good deal about in my own academic work). Specifically, he takes the set-theoretical take on time that is put forth in Whitehead’s book, “Concept of Nature” (which was written in the late 19-teens and published in 1920) to be adequately representative of Whitehead’s position on the subject; when in fact the theory put forth in Whitehead’s magnum opus, “Process and Reality” (which was published in the late twenties), differs significantly from the one developed in that earlier work, and can in some ways be read as a response to the collapse of the search for an ultimate numerical set that was inaugurated by the discovery of Russel’s Paradox.
    For someone who is so willing to get up in Morton’s grill about sloppy research and argumentation related to set theory, it seems to me that NB is a bit sloppy himself here. And in this particular instance, moreover, Morton was closer to being right than NB was. Brown’s criticism of Morton is that Whitehead does not in fact put forth a concept of time as being comprised of small, blob-like units, as Morton claims that he does. But while I would object to their characterization as “blob like,” it is in fact true that Whitehead characterizes time as being composed of small units in “Process and Reality.” It only in “Concept of Nature” that he denies this. Again, the latter is not his mature work, which in many ways reacts against the earlier theory of time that is contained in it.
    Second: while we’re on the subject of Whitehead, I should point out that NB slams Harman for describing non-human causation with terms drawn from human experience, such as “allure,” “metaphor,” and “humor,” while praising Whitehead at another point in the review for his deep knowledge of logic, relativity theory, and quantum physics. The co-presence of these two expressed sentiments in the same review speak to a nearly complete ignorance of Whitehead’s most significant contributions to contemporary discourses about the non-human, and to his influence on Harman in particular. For Alfred North Whitehead was one of the most significant and earliest of twentieth-century philosophers to describe causal processes with terms drawn from human experience. In fact, the term “pan-experientalism” was actually coined by the theologian David Ray Griffin in order to describe Whitehead’s metaphysical scheme. Some of the words that Whitehead uses to describe the experience of ALL entities are “decision,” “prehension,” “subjective aim,” “valuation,” “exclusion,” “adventures” and “sensation.” Again, then, this seems like hypocritically uniformed–or at least selectively uninformative– criticism, coming as it does from someone who so scathingly criticizes another writer for being uninformed.
    (And more generally on this front: what about the contemporary Renaissance of pan-psychist and pan-experientialist arguments among serious philosphers, including many non-OOOers and even analytical philosophers? By virtue of their panpsychism, all of these (numerous) contemporary thinkers extend so-called “human-centered” notions towards nonhuman objects, including inanimate things. Should they all just be summarily dismissed for this reason? Is Nathan Brown being dismissive of more than just Harman and Morton in this review, siding preemptively with a certain set of assumptions about the nature of being while not disclosing that he is doing so and making the decision seem obvious in the process?)
    Third: he begins his objection to “Tool Being”‘s ultimate conclusion that vacuum-sealed objects prevent things from being swallowed by an all-encompassing context or contexture of inter-relations with a statement of dissatisfaction. This is that Harman should have argued that no such contexture would ever be able to totalize or fully absorb its contents in the first place. But it only takes a moment to realize that this is an extremely poor objection. He basically upbraids Harman by citing a differently-worded version of Harman’s own conclusion, without even bothering to provide an alternate justification for it. For whatever you think about Harman’s theory of objects–whether or not you believe it provides a compelling and coherent account of discreteness, or whether you believe that there are other ways of accounting for it– it does exactly what NB criticizes it for not doing, denying the plausibility of any total context.
    To close then: I don’t like this review for all of the reasons that I just mentioned, and also because of the way it compresses such a high level of dismissive contempt into its discursive operations, and seems to do so in order to make its conclusions seem obvious: Morton = all of OOO; OOO = absurd obscuritanist nonsense; everyone who ever dissed OOO is absolutely, obviously right; everyone who still finds anything of worth in certain object-oriented questions and arguments is a fool. I feel all of these implications expressing themselves somewhat violently through this text, and frankly it wigs me out a bit. There’s a lot of hate in this style of discourse, and I really do think that there’s something wrong about it.

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  39. Dominic Fox Avatar

    This may be so, but how does that make the extract I was discussing any more defensible? If the only available defense is “yes, but it doesn’t matter, because…look over here! Interesting stuff about German Idealism!”, then I have to say that I think it does and I’m not persuaded that I should think otherwise.

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  40. Bill Benzon Avatar

    I found my way here from Terrence Blake’s joint. By way of introduction, I’m trained in literary criticism and cognitive science and, though I’ve read a bit of philosophy (on both sides of the divide) I’m not a philosopher. I’ve been following Morton’s blog for several years, and have had some correspondence with him. When I come across a bit of science I think would interest him, I generally forward it to him, even if I’ve got some misgivings about what he might do with it.
    Morton is not a philosopher. And, while he’s trained in English lit, it does seem to me that much of his recent thinking isn’t being done as a literary scholar, at least not as that intellectual role is being described. He’s functioning as a fairly general commentator on this and that. He is acting the role that many lay people think of as a philosopher’s role, general high level commentary on how the world works and the meaning of it all.
    While I’ve not read Realist Magic, I do have some sense of Morton’s thinking. I’m not surprised that the discussion has come around to his use of science and math nor, more generally, to the use of the use of science and math in continental thought. But I’m not sure what I think about it.
    On the one hand, I’ve been strongly influenced by Lévi-Strauss, an important precursor to (while also being contemporary to) much of the thinking in question. He made use of mathematical ideas. In particular, his four-volume study of myth is larded with technical-seeming diagrams, notation, and talks of proving this or that in a mathematical way. But he also says, in the introduction to The Raw and the Cooked, that this is all by way of metaphor, analogy. He isn’t really using algebraic group theory, but finds some notions from it useful.
    It seems to me that his use of those ideas is rhetorical and, in a way, necessary as well. The short-hand notions allow you to see relationships that cannot be expressed very well in prose. It’s the visual layout and the way you can examine relationships among items as they’re laid out on the page – very useful.
    I find it relatively easy to draw a conceptual line between the comparisons Lévi-Strauss draws between the myths he analyzes and the rhetoric he uses to comment on those comparisons. The comparisons exist apart from the commentary, and it’s the comparisons that I find compelling.
    But Morton isn’t commenting on a specific body of texts. When you peel away his techno-mathematico-scientific rhetoric, what have you got? I’m not sure.
    But the problem is a general one. How does one come to grips with science and math when one doesn’t have the technical chops to do so in depth? Think of Morton as a smart guy who’s interested in the world and who, by the way, happens to have a Ph.D. in English Lit. That’s allowed him to get to a certain place in the world and, now that he’s there, he’s doing something else, something that some people seem to be interested in, something that needs to be done. What do we make of that?
    Well, it’s easy enough to say that at least he should get the science and math right. But what does that mean? Without the technical apparatus, you can’t really get it right. There’s always going to be come compromise, some misdirection, some fuzziness.

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  41. Dominic Fox Avatar

    “How does one come to grips with science and math when one doesn’t have the technical chops to do so in depth?”
    The short answer is, you put in the hours and you acquire the aforementioned chops (no royal road, etc.). Or, if that doesn’t seem appealing to you, you handle these topics with appropriate care and try to avoid over-reaching presumption. Either approach is valid. What isn’t valid – or, at least, isn’t a good look – is persuading yourself that over-reaching presumption is perfectly all right, because who made those egg-heads the boss of you anyway?

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  42. Terence Blake Avatar

    Bill Benzon’s example of Levi Strauss’s structuralism is a little different from Morton’s use of technical concepts from math and science, but may explain some of his motivation. I think it is important to realise that noone owns theoretical terms, not even mathematicians and physicists, so noone can lay claim to possessing the true definition of words like force, intensity, or even temperature. Many technical words originate in ordinary language as such or by etymological derivation. But the question for me is where to draw the line. Several cases seem to exist:
    1) Deleuze uses notions of force and intensity outside of any physical definition or function, and I think he has the right to do so.
    2) Pushing further into technicity, he also uses the notion of black hole to describe a certain type of subjectivity and its traps. While this notion is meant to resonate in some way with the physical concept, it receives in Deleuze’s text a totally different definition and Deleuze does not claim to be using or commenting on the physical concept, he claims to have “deterritorialised” it. I think this is acceptable also.
    3) However his commentaries on the differential calculus as such, and not on some deterritorialised philosophical concept that he has drawn from them, had better be accurate.
    An interesting example is an interview with Michel Serres and Michel Foucault that I heard on the radio a while back (I have lived in France for the last 30 years). It seems to have taken place in the late 60s or early 70s. Serres remarked that Foucault’s books relied heavily on terms such as “relation”, “function”, and “structure” that had precise definitions in mathematics, and asked Foucault if he knew these technical defintions. Scenting a possible trap Foucault replied, and I think Levi Strauss could have replied similarly, that these words did not originate in mathematics, which had merely taken up words from the common language and given them a technical acception. He claimed that he was doing the same thing, and giving these words his own technical sense. This corresponds to a combination of cases 1 and 2 in my little typology. Morton no doubt does some of this deterritorialising usage too. That’s fine by me, and can even be illuminating. The problem is when he presumes to cite and comment on technical concepts from a technical point of view, implicitly claiming technical knowledge that may be inadequate in certain cases. Nathan Brown haas given prima facie arguments to show that this is indeed the case. I for one do not think that this invalidates all his work, some of which I find insightful and illuminating. Nor do I think that this critique reduces all types of OOO to pretentious nonsense.
    Nonetheless I think that another sort of global argument can be given, and that it is implicit in Nathan Brown’s article. If it can be shown, and many people think it can, that there is an obfuscation in Harman’s notion of an unknowable untouchable invisible etc. real object, and that we can nevertheless give examples of such objects, if the notion of “withdrawn yet related” is incoherent, if the talk about relations “not exhausting” their objects is mere picture talk with no precise conceptual sense, then this philosophy has set the ground for a jazzy rush of examples that don’t cohere out into a philosophy, including a jazzy use of mathematical and physical theories. So despite the need to be specific to see if this sort of jazzy usage is being trumpeted (sorry for the pun) as if it were a deterritorialised usage, once it’s significant and frequent occurrence in a text has been established, the global objection can legitimately be made.

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  43. Nathan Brown Avatar
    Nathan Brown

    I’ll post one short remark here, and no more. I’m just saying this in advance because I don’t want to seem dismissive of whatever replies may be posted, but nor am I willing to get engaged in a longer comment thread discussion. I only want to say something about my reasons for writing the piece mentioned above.
    As has been noted, I’m an English professor with a Ph.D. and a BA in English. I take it this fact suffices to displace the content of the post above, which is entirely framed in terms of a perceived problem with philosophers correcting the use of philosophy by other humanists. As an English prof, my position as a reader of Morton’s book bears upon some issues I think are important, and which Dominic mentions above.
    First, I’ve done a great deal of difficult work to learn something about philosophy, though I still don’t know enough. It is important to me that “English professors” not be perceived, off the cuff, as hacks when it comes to writing on philosophical texts or thinking about philosophical problems. Sadly, however, the use of philosophy by literature profs is often, in fact, irresponsible. This is a problem, because it means those of us who attempt to work seriously on the tradition are often lumped in who those who deploy philosophical texts and problems in a basically opportunistic and sometimes absurd way. It’s thus important that those who work on literature as their primary focus be willing and able to point out such errors – precisely because we should not have to rely upon “philosophers” to do so and thereby put themselves in the position Jon describes above, erroneously attributing it to me.
    Second, I have no background in the sciences, but I work on science and literature and have a book forthcoming on nanoscale materials science and materialist poetics. As Dominic points out, it takes a long time and serious attention to learn how to handle scientific matters in a way that makes sense and actually aids, rather than diminishes, the conceptual inquiry in which one is engaged. One has to read the literature, and that means many many scientific articles from different perspectives on the issues on is tackling, grappling with formal languages one can’t usually fully understand – but making sure that one isn’t just tossing off samples from whatever text that may aid whatever case one is making. That’s just…scholarship. It isn’t easy. And it is possible to make mistakes. But again: it is important to me that humanists not be dismissed, a priori, while they are engaged in such work. The handling of science and mathematics by Morton’s book is indeed egregious, and it makes it hard for a subfield like “science and literature” to prosper when certain humanists flaunt their ignorance as superior to scientific inquiry itself. Thus, it’s important that those of us engaged in the subfield take it upon ourselves to correct errors and denounce flagrant scholarly irresponsibility. It shouldn’t be a big deal for us to do so.
    Third, I have read “ooo” with a lot of care – far more than most people who dismiss it. My reward for this, and also for thinking about the philosophical problem of the object, has been getting associated with a philosophical “movement” that I happen to think has little to recommend it, personally or philosophically. Prospective graduate students, for example, write to me as a potential advisor because they are interested in “ooo” or in “speculative realism.” I have done some writing on Meillassoux’s work, which I view as inventive and philosophically rigorous. Again: I think it is important for those of us genuinely interested in such things to separate the wheat from the chaff, as genuinely important philosophical worked is tarred by association with “ooo” (this was my problem with Galloway’s article, for example). I’ve invested some time reading Graham’s books, etc. I think that time was largely wasted, but I often defend aspects of the work in conversations with others who are dismissive without having read it earnestly.
    What links all three of these points is that I think it’s just fine for people invested in philosophy, relations between science and the humanities, or indeed present developments in ontology, to call out cocky absurdities that besmear the whole enterprise of trying to think seriously about philosophy and science as a humanist. Doing so is really really hard. If a stern polemic is sometimes called for (and this is by no means the mainline of the kind of work I publish), then so be it. There’s no reason to bellyache about its “violence.” It’s a polemical review; that’s all.

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  44. Nathan Brown Avatar
    Nathan Brown

    Eileen, you might enjoy my article on Caroline Bergvall, here: http://www.asu.edu/pipercwcenter/how2journal/vol_3_no_3/bergvall/nathan-brown-objects-that-matter.html
    Or about the end of the world, here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9806378/Brown%20-%20Framing%20Modernity.pdf
    In any case, you needn’t feel that the sides of the dance floor you mention are quite so neatly divided.

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  45. Alex Clark Avatar
    Alex Clark

    In reply to Dominic Fox at 35 above who says “The set of rational numbers is a quite trivially separable subset of the set of real numbers ”
    So this does seem entirely correct, but one could come up with the following charitable reading of Morton (I have no idea if this is what he intended): in the standard set theoretic construction of the rationals one defines them to be infinite sets of ordered pairs of integers; 1/2 being the set of all pairs <n,m> where m is twice n.
    The reals are infinite sets of rationals (Dedekind cuts).
    So then the rationals are not a subset of the reals but isomorphic to a subset of the reals. The real number 0.5 and the rational 1/2 being then “uneasily different”, and the relationship between rationals and reals being not quite the simple subset relation.
    Is this too charitable? Who knows.

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  46. Dominic Fox Avatar

    I don’t think that helps much – the reals are also commonly thought of as equivalence classes…

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  47. Eileen Joy Avatar

    Nathan: very generous actually of you to respond here and to clarify certain points, and I thank you for that. I will probably still disagree with you on the STYLE/AFFECT of your assessment of Morton’s work, but you claim it as “polemical,” so I get that [I’m not a fan of polemics, to be honest, but I appreciate your honesty]. I shall follow those links and thanks for sharing them. Cheers, Eileen

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  48. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    Eileen,
    You are a saint, thanks for your kindness to me and Brown (on the latter, in my experience “polemics” are almost always, if not always, imbecilic (in the technical Zizekian sense) for precisely the reasons I gave above).
    I will get a chance this year to read the great stuff in your Speculative Medievalisms ( http://punctumbooks.com/titles/speculative-medievalisms/ ) collection, and I’m really hyped to do so.
    Best,
    Jon

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