In a recent blog entry, Laurie Santos and Tamar Gendler very nicely lay out the idea that explicit propositional knowledge is only a small part of the sort of understanding that guides action. As they say “Recent work in cognitive science has demonstrated that knowing is a shockingly tiny portion of the battle for most real world decisions. You may know that $19.99 is pretty much the same price as $20.00, but the first still feels like a significantly better deal. …You may know that a job applicant of African descent is as likely to be qualified as one of European descent, but the negative aspects of the former's resume will still stand out. “ (The post is short and really well written, go read the whole thing.) They then note, “You might think that this is old news. After all, thinkers for the last 2500 years have been pointing out that much of human action isn't under rational control.”

I would add: not only is this a point that one finds in Aristotle, but for the last 350 years it has been central to: Pascal, Marx Heidegger, Merleau-Ponty, Althusser, Foucault, pretty much every feminist epistemologist and philosopher of science (longino, Harding, Kukla, and on and on), and forcefully developed within mainstream analytic philosophy by Dreyfus, Haugeland, and others. )I sometimes think that the only important philosopher not to accept the point is Jason Stanley. – j/k!)

But even if I am a bit frustrated with the lack of uptake in mainstream analytic philosophy of this point, this is a minor quibble, since Santos and Gendler both acknowledge that the point is not new. What I want to emphasize here is their important meta-point: If their claim is right – that explicit knowledge is far from sufficient for changing practice — then why should we think that knowing this will change the practice of cognitive science, philosophy, and political critique? Just as knowing a fact about bias does not make us lose the bias in practice, knowing this about our misguided practices of changing practice does not make us change them from our habits of  pointing out false beliefs to effective engagement with campaigns for change. (This is, of course, not to say that pointing out false beliefs has no role to play.)

So basically, I wish Santos ad Gendler hadn’t quit where they do. Genuinely taking on the lesson of this long tradition, what one would want is precisely not another version of this meta-claim, but a strategy for behavioral conditioning, a sort of project of cognitive behavioral therapy for cognitive scientists, ideologists, activists, and probably above all philosophers. That is, what we need is at least some hypotheses about how to change our habitual ways of reacting to epistemically defective habits, so that we do not habitually respond as if discursive denunciation of their defectiveness will, alone, change anything and, instead, take up practical steps to change the practices and habits of our intellectual peers.

A long time ago I saw a parody of the intellectual radical in the form of a GQ-style profile. At the end it included a “Principle I live by” – or some such – that read: Philosophers through the ages have sought to interpret the world; the goal, however, is to write books about changing it. I take Santos and Gendler to be saying that this is an apt parody of far too much politically minded cognitive science and philosophy. But if that's the case – and I think they would accept this — then me writing a blog post about it really isn’t helping either. Neither blog post is, unless in the comments we can really start developing strategies for turning us from theorists into meta-activists. While I have a few thoughts in that regard, I’d like to hold them for a bit to see if others have anything to say.

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16 responses to “Explicit knowledge, defective practice, and meta-activism”

  1. Daniel Greco Avatar
    Daniel Greco

    I know you wrote “j/k”, but I just want to put in a quick word on why I think the point about Stanley is misleading. It’s easy to think that Stanley is over-intellectualizing skilled action (by saying that it is guided by propositional knowledge), and maybe he invites this by calling his view “intellectualist.” But really I think you get a better picture of what he’s up to if you think of him as accusing everybody else of over-intellectualizing propositional knowledge. That is, it’s only if you accept the (bad) view that propositional knowledge involves only, e.g., being disposed to utter sentences, that you will think of the phenomenon under discussion (the stuff Gendler and Santos are writing about, and which you note has been discussed by lots of writers) as illustrating how powerless knowledge is to guide action. If you have a better view about propositional knowledge, on which uttering sentences is only one of the various ways in which it can be manifested, then you’ll describe the phenomenon quite differently (though without denying that it exists). Bob Stalnaker has a piece in a symposium on Stanley’s book that I think brings this out really nicely: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1933-1592.2012.00640.x/abstract

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  2. Mark Lance Avatar

    I completely agree, and meant to make no “point” about Stanley. We had a rather public fight over some aspects of his work on this, and later a rather public make-up, so it was really just a joke. (Maybe not good, maybe not even appropriate, but nothing more.)
    I think there are lots of very subtle issues concerning the relation between propositional knowledge and (other sorts of) skills. I have a paper on the topic coming out in a festschrift for Haugeland, and certainly agree with Jason that explicit belief is a hell of a lot more than a disposition to utter sentences. (Actually, I presume no one thinks it is just that. If so parrots would have propositional knowledge.) But all that matters for this post is that, à la Santos and Gendler, we recapitulate the over-intellectualization in the ways that we criticize over-intellectualization.

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  3. ajkreider Avatar
    ajkreider

    Why not take the view that, for important decisions at least, we form clear rubrics that can be followed carefully? This won’t work for day to day decisions like the $19.99 cases – but those don’t matter much anyway. Hiring and parole decisions are important, and are generally begun with at least some reflection – enough reflection to motivate a “We need to follow the rubric on this one”. This seems applicable to sending out conference invites, reviewing of prospective journal articles, the considering of grant proposals, etc.
    This seems a) a lot easier, and b) a bit less creepy than subjecting ourselves and others to conditioning.

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  4. Eric Schwitzgebel Avatar
    Eric Schwitzgebel

    Interesting thought! One possibility to consider is more reflection on the manner in which various types of philosophical writing engage the emotions. One particularly interesting version of this is when the reader’s emotional reactions are engaged toward a philosophical agenda without its even being explicit on the surface of the text what the agenda is. Zhuangzi and Nietzsche, as I read them, were masters of this — and it’s no accident, I think, that they are also full of jokes and puns.

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  5. Jon Cogburn Avatar
    Jon Cogburn

    This strikes me as an age-defining philosophical problem.
    For its dialectical centrality, note how it is really an instance of the myth of the given problematic, but focused internally instead of externally. In the myth of the given problems we try to discern how purely causal inputs could play a justificatory role with respect to our beliefs. In Brandom (and I think Rorty’s) construal this is a case of the naturalistic fallacy; we seem to be being asked to derive oughts from ises in fallacious ways.
    For McDowell, the answer is to give up “bald naturalism” and see the inputs as already normative in some sense. Independent of this, the point is that if we think of perception, for example, in terms of Bertrand Russell’s sense data theory, it becomes impossible to see how perceptions can do the normative work they need to.
    Here it’s the same problem, but going in the opposite direction. Beliefs are supposed to “govern” appropriate action. But if we think of beliefs, for example, in terms of Jerry Fodor’s “Language of Mind” view* it becomes impossible to see how beliefs can do the normative work they they need to do.
    And I think we see how Rorty can interpret Heidegger and Sellars as getting at the same insight. Heidegger on belief is analogous to McDowell on perception. Beliefs aren’t these causally powerful states inscribed in the mind, but rather always already normative in some sense (well, actually in the sense described in Division I of Being and Time, depending on a more originary non-propositional hermeneutic as structure).
    So there is a real dialectical salience here.
    But there is a practical one as well. First, on an individual level, the problem of akrasia. There are beliefs** we would so much like to have that we attribute them to ourselves, but our behavior belies this. There is a tension between what we would like to believe and what we actually believe. We end up thinking we believe things that we don’t. I don’t think this is a great mystery, but articulating it forces you to have a more Heideggerian concept of belief as emerging out of an already normative non-propositional hermeneutic as structure (don’t know how this fits with Stanley’s work, which I hope to teach some day).
    The second problem involves beliefs that we might attribute to groups of people. There is the analogue to the problem of akrasia (leading to imminent critique, e.g. “Is this really a Christian institution?”), but there is also the problem you raise. The vast majority of people who actually think about these things believe that Krugman is correct about the European financial crisis but these beliefs end up being inert.
    Here we see the beliefs really not doing the causal work with respect to society that they are supposed to do.
    When I posted about this a month ago, lots of people responded by saying that we just need more studies concerning how political will gets subverted. But the problem is that this is just more propositional knowledge which will just be subverted yet again. This ties to the joke about writing books about how to change the world, and also ties to your comment a few weeks ago about how the best voting procedures in the world will not be able to prevent subversion of their intent (if enough other things are pathological in the society).
    So it only makes sense to attribute a belief if the person is already in a normative space. And the making explicit of this bit of space in attributing the belief brings with it new commitments. But this process still breaks down in characteristic ways in akrasia and political tomfoolery.
    There is the theoretical question of how to best characterize such breakdowns, but also the practical question of how to deal with the problems caused by such breakdowns. I think your post above illustrates both strands, and I’m really excited about reading your further thoughts on what might be done.
    [Notes:
    *And this is why it is no accident that Fodor’s review of McDowell’s “Mind and World” ends up being an expression of incomprehension, e.g. “I don’t see why the tree can’t justify my belief that there’s a tree in front of me.” Argh, as if Wittgenstein never wrote anything about demonstratives. “This!” and point. This what?
    **I know that the problem is usually expressed in terms of desire. I think this formulation actually does all of the work one needs to do, but realize that this is a substantive view and I’ve done nothing to argue for it here.]

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  6. Mark Lance Avatar

    Eric: Yes, it is important to realize that we do many things with language other than merely make explicit claims. Philosophy can destabilize our assumptions, paint vivid pictures of morally salient situations, etc. A serious discussion of the complex interplay of implicit habitual engagement in practice and linguistic intervention will have to make lots of distinctions in re the type of intervention.

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  7. Mark Lance Avatar

    Rubrics can help – there is evidence of that. But they can’t eliminate the problem. They could, only if we could reduce a complex decision like hiring to a set of tasks not themselves subject to interpretational biases. And I just don’t think that is possible. Nor will heuristics do all the work. We can anonymously read papers and remove gender or race bias – well to the extent that there aren’t clues, conscious or subconscious, in the writing – but if we have people to campus which I think we must if only to assess teaching effectiveness, we are going to see them.
    You say “a bit less creepy than subjecting ourselves and others to conditioning.”
    This is an important point. You seem to be presupposing that we are not currently, but as soon as we consider that, it is clearly false. Everything we are talking about is a matter of conditioning. That’s what growing up and being socialized is. So the question is what sort of consciously undertaken conditioning we might engage in to counter current conditioning that has made us irrational. So is it more creepy when consciously devised? Well it can be. If we are imagining a Clockwork Orange situation, or a re-education camp. But this, I suggest, conflates purposeful social action wtih hierarchical control and authoritarianism. Why can’t we collectively assess these issues and engage in grassroots efforts to change ourselves?
    Here’s a kind of trivial example of the kind of “conditioning” I have in mind: it is well documented that US folks have an irrational level of fear of black folks. Whites especially, but blacks too, are more afraid of blacks on the streets than whites, even though they are more likely to be assaulted in-group. People are afraid to live in particular neighborhoods in ways that do not correlate with actual danger. I know that I was subject to such fears – once I thought about such issues, I could detect them in myself. Well, for the last dozen years, we have lived in a predominantly African American neighborhood. And gradually, in the process of becoming friends with my neighbors, of developing a casual and familiar acquaintance and involvement with everyone in the neighborhood, much of that has changed. I’m not saying that I don’t still suffer implicit bias of any sort around race. That would be absurd. But I most certainly don’t feel afreaid in the same way when I see a black guy walking on the sidewalk. In fact, my conditioning has changed enough that I get a bit of a startle reaction when a young white guy I don’t know is in the neighborhood. This was not a matter of learning new propositions. It was a gradual habituation of my social affect, my emotional engagement with aspects of society. It was a kind of conditioning. And I think I’m better for it.
    So I think we need more of that – in some suitably expanded sense of ‘that’.

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  8. Charles R Avatar
    Charles R

    This discussion reminds me of the Müller-Lyer illusion. We know it’s an illusion; we might even have very good theoretical and conceptual frameworks to explain exactly how the perceptual machinery of the nervous systems along with any significant cultural clues work together to produce the illusion.
    But knowing it’s an illusion, and that it happens, does not prevent someone from having the illusion. What it does do is create the conditions for recognizing the illusion is taking place. And it’s this metacognitive understanding that prompts one to alter behaviors to not immediately rest in the phenomenon, but to work towards incorporating the reality of the illusory nature into one’s larger worldview. In this sense, I think Mark Lance is right to acknowledge that one has to acknowledge also that one has implicit, and so more strongly the explicit, biases and develop habits of action—get to know one’s fears, familiarize one’s self with the abyss, learn about the terrors that swerve our world (speaking more generally, and from my immersion in Pascal) in order to no longer be guided by anxiety—to circumvent the immediacy of our illusions. We can’t eliminate the illusions of our senses (biological, cultural, intellectual, &c) simply by declaring them to be illusions and even by understanding how data becomes our fraud; they will still appear, some of the strongest ones, to be always the case. What we have to do is cultivate a larger experience of working through the illusion so that it doesn’t sit as the only means we have for gauging what is, but we can only do this once we take up the knowledge that it is an illusion.

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  9. Jason Stanley Avatar
    Jason Stanley

    Mark – nice post, and you are exactly right about the affinities between Gendler’s views and the structural Marxist position. I have been trying to get her to engage with Bourdieu for awhile. I do however think there are some important differences. The habitus is explicitly treated as a non-mental social practice, whereas Alief is a distinctive kind of mental state. Sociologists tend to fear reduction of social notions to psychological ones, so one doesn’t find Bourdieu talking about how being in a social practice gets mediated by the mental on the way to individual action. Alief is a mental state and not a social construct. So the two play some what different functional roles. And here is where Dan Greco’s point comes in. Why think that it’s Alief, rather than belief, that mediates between embeddedness in social practice and individual action? It looks here like the arguments that it’s some other mental state rather than belief overintellectualize belief (Railton’s latest work argues this for the case of social practices; that is, Railton and Sripada argue that acting on the basis of being embedded in a social practice is explained by ordinary belief; I also gave a paper on Bourdieu at the world congress over the summer). At any rate, lots of issues to discuss. You are quite right that Gendler and Santos want to use Alief to explain what for example Bourdieu uses the habitus to explain.

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  10. Mark Lance Avatar

    Jason:
    I pretty much agree with the substance of everything you say here. I was only endorsing the actual blog post that I linked – which says nothing about aliefs, just making the negative point that changing belief doesn’t do as much as we think, at the object or the meta-level. And like you, I am skeptical of how any of these issues are made better by substituting one mental state for another, when the point is that social practical habits are not mental states to begin with. I’d be interested in seeing your paper on this.

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  11. John Protevi Avatar

    This is a very interesting discussion. Here’s my two cents, adapting what I say in Political Affect (and with apologies for the crudeness, as I’m wiring from a hotel breakfast room –so I’m caffeinated, at least, though not in my best writing space).
    I use the concept of “affective-cognitive” structures of bodies politics in Political Affect. Mark’s example of slowly reworking your affective-cognitive structure in your neighborhood is exactly what works — the only thing that works — with (to use the example I use in class to make this point) small town (male) homophobes who move to the big city and slowly learn it’s just a waste of time to be apprehensive that gay dudes are going to come on to them. So gradual desensitization not verbal argument that “gay dudes aren’t interested in you” is what works. Of course this is one aspect of the argument for coming out, though there are many others too, such as getting over the self-loathing of the closet: which is another thing that is affective-cognitive.
    I use the Damasio somatic marker idea: lived scenarios are affectively marked; these are laid down in memory and form the basis for anticipating what it would feel like to live through an experience; these affective markers can be unconscious and serve to cut back on the consciously accessible scenarios we use in our explicit planning. So the small town homophobe who imagines what it would be like to move to the big city is going to be anxious about being the target of gay dudes sexual attentions — using the classic notion that homophobia interacts with patriarchy — via the projection of his attitudes toward the objects of his sexual attentions.
    But moving to the big city will enable the laying down of somatic markers of encounters with out gay people that are so quotidian — borrowing the proverbial cup of sugar from your neighbor — that they are very low stress. So the being on edge around gay people wears away, as the low stress somatic markers build up.
    NB: of course there are out gay people and supportive allies in small towns, and there are big city homophobes, often grotesquely violent ones. This is a deliberately simplified story just to get the idea across to students so that more complex discussion is possible.

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  12. Mark Lance Avatar

    Thanks John. That’s really good, and I definitely had your stuff in mind when writing this. My non-scientific but extensive experience paying attention to such things through 40 years of living as a politically active and engaged person, involved in lots and lots of movements, is this is one of the main ways things like this change.
    I’d also like to mention things like working together on concrete projects. I’ll give two examples – one anecdotal, one more systematic:
    I had a friend some years ago who, years before that had been a fighter in the Sandinista revolution. We got talking about machismo and whether attitudes and practices were changing in the new regime – this was during the first period of the Sandinista government. He said that his own attitudes had been very traditional and had actually changed over the course of a six month stint in the jungle. Most nights he was covering a certain hillside with a woman. And he said just hte habit that developed of having to trust a woman with an AK 47 to keep you alive on and off all night radically changed his conception of what women are an how to relate to them.
    Beyond this, my partner Amy did lots of research on so-called “dialogue groups”. These bring together groups across some vexed division – black-white; jewish-palestinian; rich-poor; Catholic-Irish; Protestant-Irish; etc. to try to understnad one another. ANd while they all lead to better reported attitudes towards the particular people in the group, they are generally pretty ineffective if you consider broader measures, like political involvement, engagement with the broader community of “others”, etc. But things were very different when people engaged together in concrete political projects. When the black-white group worked together to challenge gentrification of a black neighborhood, for example, as an on-going work supplemented with dialogue, there were way more robust outcomes. This strikes me as enormously intuitive, and also to fit with lots of experience I have in the organizing world. (eg. the ACTUP organizer who was welcomed into a Hamas-related conservative mosque because he had worked with the members for years on Palestine issues; or my own fairly deep connection to certain communities – and a feeling of being at home in them – as a result of long-term organizing work together. I think in the long run working together – in whatever sense of ‘work’ is more effective than the sporadic and superficial encounters of borrowing sugar. (Not to suggest that you mean to deny this.)

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  13. John Protevi Avatar

    Hi Mark, that’s an extremely important and revealing point about collaboration. Having a third, shared, intentional object as the focus, rather than the face to face encounter, is going to, I think, lessen the stereotype threat involved in being the representative of a group. “I’m going to show these folks I’m not prejudiced toward them” is precisely the sort of thing that makes the prejudices all the more difficult to shake.
    That’s the analogous point, IIRC, about implicit bias being all the more powerful the more you’re aware of them. “Now I’m going to read these CVs from women, but I’m not going to downgrade them relative to men’s CVs, because hey, I’m a philosopher, so since I’m aware of implicit bias, now I just need to watch out for its insidious workings!”

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  14. Mark Lance Avatar

    RIght. I think it is the routinization of interactions that are positive and mutually supporting. One learns – not intellectually, but emotionally, practically, habitually – to see certain people as allies, comrades, in it together. In the Mosque – ACTUP case, a friend reports interviewing members of the Mosque after the other guy gave a talk there that one might suspect would have led to stoning. And people really didn’t seem to even notice that it was controversial vis a vis their ideology. they just kept talking about what a sweet, moral, committed man the person was, how much they trusted him, how he clearly had a good heart, stuff like that. So in one sense they seemed not to have even heard the content, though he had – so I’m told – used the word ‘gay’ like every other sentence. So the language, too, was probably working at some important level that had little to do with explicit uptake of the contents.

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  15. John Protevi Avatar

    “I think it is the routinization of interactions that are positive and mutually supporting.”
    Yes, that’s pretty much what I think is Deleuze and Guattari’s normative standard, coming out of Spinoza: build social structures that maximize active joyous encounters. Spinoza would say that what makes it active is the ability to understand it coming from your own essence — I think the pragmatic uptake of that is this: does an encounter enable you to produce other positive empowering encounters? Then you get a “rhizome” or even melodramatically, a “war machine.”

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  16. Mark Lance Avatar

    “joyous’ seems to me to be too specific, and I guess I have to say that I don’t see what the big words add here – not to say they don’t, but to say quite literally that I don’t see it – but basically yeah.

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