I’ve written a few posts in the recent past questioning the whole idea of anonymous peer-review as a reliable guide to quality – in philosophy as well as elsewhere. In other disciplines, there have been numerous recent cases of ‘false positives’, i.e. papers which made it through the peer-review process but then were discovered to be fundamentally flawed after they were published (leading to a very large number of retractions).

The issue with false positives is well known, but as I’ve suggested in some of my previous posts, the issue of false negatives is equally serious, or perhaps even more serious, and yet it tends to be under-appreciated. A recent piece by JP de Ruiter, a psycholinguist at the University of Bielefeld, articulates very nicely why it is serious, and why it remains essentially invisible.

The two main goals of a review system are to minimize both the number of bad studies that are accepted for publication and the number of good studies that are rejected for publication. Borrowing terminology of signal detection theory, let’s call these false positives and false negatives respectively.

It is often implicitly assumed that minimizing the number of false positives is the primary goal of APR. However, signal detection theory tells us that reducing the number of false positives inevitably leads to an increase in the rate of false negatives. I want to draw attention here to the fact that the cost of false negatives is both invisible and potentially very high. It is invisible, obviously, because we never get to see the good work that was rejected for the wrong reasons. And the cost is high, because it removes not only good papers from our scientific discourse, but also entire scientists. […] The inherent conservatism in APR means that people with new, original approaches to old problems run the risk of being shut out, humiliated, and consequently chased away from academia. In the short term, this is to the advantage of the established scientists who do not like their work to be challenged. In the long run, this is obviously very damaging for science. This is especially true of the many journals that will only accept papers that receive unanimously positive reviews. These journals are not facilitating scientific progress, because work with even the faintest hint of controversy is almost automatically rejected.

With all this in mind, it is somewhat surprising that APR also fails to keep out many obviously bad papers.

 In other words, it seems that the system is producing false positives as well false negatives, for reasons that are inherent to the system itself. (The piece proposes that peer-review should not be anonymous in the referee-author direction, i.e. the author should be able to know who the referee was.) What’s worse, the false negatives slip through the cracks, and so it is likely that there is a lot of good research being ‘lost’ in this way while nobody is paying attention (not to mention the careers of researchers with great potential).

Now, as any journal editor will tell you, it is exceedingly hard to get people to accept referee assignments these days: everybody is over-worked, and refereeing is the thankless, annoying job that we all try to avoid as much as possible. If moreover the reports should not be anonymous (as proposed by the article I quote above), then presumably it would become even harder to find willing referees. Now, one might think that academics should recognize that acting as a diligent referee from time to time simply comes with the job, on a par with other thankless activities such as willingness to be in committees, fill in for your sick colleague etc.: it would simply be a matter of collegiality. After all, we need good-willed referees to read the papers that we submit to journals ourselves. And yet, (understandably) refereeing is the first thing we try to get away from when other commitments and obligations are piling up on our desks.

Hence, and as has been acknowledged by many people before me, finding good referees, who write fair, informative reports in a timely fashion, is the Achilles’ heel of the whole system. How can we create incentives so that people feel more inclined to take up referee assignments, and do it in a conscientious way? In my experience, both as an editor and as a referee, usually one accepts such assignments out of respect for the editor (that’s why one important characteristic in a good editor is having many friends in the profession!), sometimes because the paper seems interesting and potentially one could learn something from it. And yet, this does not seem to be doing the trick, or not enough. 

At the Review of Symbolic Logic, where I am one of the editors, we recently started working with an online editorial system (yes, you heard me: recently). So far the system is still not fully reliable, but it has a number of functions that I am just starting to discover. Today I discovered that I can see all current projects being handled by all editors, as well as the authors of the submissions. (I don’t think this is ideal: I much prefer the system of the other journal of which I am an editor, Ergo, which operates with triple anonymity.) Anyway, I noticed that among the submissions currently being processed, there are many by people who I recently asked to referee papers for the RSL, and who declined the assignment! (Some do not even bother replying to the request, which is even more annoying.) It just seems a bit too rich, doesn’t it?, to expect a journal to process your own submission – i.e. finding suitable referees etc. – while not being willing to act as a referee for the journal yourself…

So here’s an idea: journals could have a policy such that, by submitting an article to a given journal, one thereby commits to accepting at least two referee requests from the same journal, within a reasonable amount of time (say, 12 months). How exactly to enforce the principle, I am not sure: the journal might refrain from publishing the paper until the author has done their refereeing ‘pay-back duty’ (but this only works in case of accepted papers), or the journal might not accept new submissions by the same author in the meantime etc. The idea would simply be that each submission generates the need for at least two referee reports (usually), and so to keep the balance, for each paper one submits, one should do at least two referee reports (for the same journal or for different journals, but that would make the logistics much more complicated). Of course, very junior people will likely not be well placed to act as referees in the same way, so the system is not perfectly balanced; but it would at least introduce a certain level of accountability for submitting a paper. Every submission entails quite some work both for the handling editor and for the referees the editor will call upon, so it would be only natural that authors collectively share some of the burden.

What do readers think? Should we consider installing systems of formal incentives such as the tit-for-tat approach I am proposing here? Other ideas on how to ensure that everybody does their part so that the system runs more smoothly?

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26 responses to “The many problems with peer-review (yet again), and some proposed solutions”

  1. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    Interesting suggestions. Not accepting further submissions from the author seems reasonable, but you’d need an automated system to track it or it would become onerous on editors.
    Just a side note: we need more precise terminology here. When I hear “anonymous peer review,” I don’t know if that means that 1) the reviewer is anonymous, 2) the author is anonymous, or 3) both. I am pretty sure (based on what you said on Facebook) that you meant to criticize #1, but when I first read this through, I thought you meant #3. How about: 1) reviewer-anonymous peer review, 2) author-anonymous peer review, 3) double anonymous peer review? And I take it that you are advocating for #2.

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  2. Lisa Herzog Avatar
    Lisa Herzog

    This sounds immensely reasonable to me. But there are some problems that would have to be solved. First, wouldn’t people who „have“ to review because of a previous submission try to minimize the time they spend on reviewing and submit very superficial reviews? Also, they might nilly-willy agree to review pieces that are not really in their area of competence, which could also lower the quality of reviews.
    A second problem is how the fields of philosophy and the different journals in them are cut up. In some fields, there are two or three major journals, and one can expect that a scholar in this field could review most articles that are submitted to them, but then there are other journals that cut across subfields, or to which people coming from different subfields submit (a simple illustration is the matrix of historical and systematic divisions we often use: if you are an 17th century scholar, say, you might occasionally submit a piece to a journal in ontology, writing on a 17th century author’s ontological theories – but this does not necessarily qualify you to review other pieces in ontology, from ancient or contemporary authors).
    Asumme that all these things could be solved, a third problem arises with regard to the introduction of such a system: if one journal starts it, it might simply end up getting no submissions any more. You might need a group of journals, or maybe have some very prestigious journals start it.
    In the best of all possible worlds, there might be a „clearing house“ between journals in order to set accounts for how many submissions and reviews authors have in total. But the bureaucratic and organizational problems of such a clearing house might completely outweigh the gains in quality of the review process.

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  3. Sebastian Lutz Avatar

    Hi Catarina, I agree that declining (or even ignoring) review-requests simply because it is not advantageous to one’s own career is ethically questionable. But apart from the problems with your suggested system that you already mentioned, I’m not sure how it could be set up to reliably distinguish between people declining for this reason and people declining because they do not feel competent or have a conflict of interest. When I decline review requests, I do so exactly /because/ I value the review process so highly: I would not want to review an article on a topic in which I am not competent enough (or could become competent enough quickly enough). The other problem is that a reviewer forced to write a review might be less inclinced to produce a good or event decent one.
    There seems to me also a more productive way of getting people to review. Producing many high quality reviews should be in line with people’s own interests, which it is not at the moment. The value of any kind of review for a journal is just one point on one’s CV, and subsequent reviews for the same journal are typically not even mentioned. And I’ve never heard of someone being hired or given tenure because of good work as a reviewer (there have been instances were reviewers received a book for good review work, which can be personally satisfying, but is not something to put on your CV).
    So my best suggestion at the moment is instituting some system that makes prolific and good reviewers more visible and rewards them professionally. For visibility, I can imagine some public ranking systems for each journal. It probably should be coarse grained and restricted to the top third or top half of reviewers, so not to scare of potential reviewers. That is, a journal could publish a list of reviewers and specifically distinguish the best third, say. This system could (and probably should) also incorporate feedback from authors (for instance via multiple choice questions regarding, say, competence of review and constructiveness of comments and distinguishing between authors’ feedback on recommendations of acceptance and rejection). As to the rewards, tenure review boards could take number and quality of journal reviews into account, and hiring committees could do the same. Finally, there is a very simple informal effect of making the identity of good reviewers public: Good reviewers are more likely to make good colleagues, since they are more likely to give good comments on their colleague’s drafts and talks.
    Overall, I think motivating people to review by naming good reviewers and rewarding them professionally is probably a better system than punishing people when they turn down invitations to review, especially since they may decline to ensure the quality of reviews.

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    x

    This seems like it might work better if there were a consortium of journals.

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  5. Michael Kremer Avatar
    Michael Kremer

    I can see no reason whatsoever why someone who happens to submit a paper to a given journal owes refereeing to that very journal. I have refereed for many journals to which I have never submitted a paper. Similarly I have submitted papers to journals for which I have never refereed a paper. It seems to me the whole question cannot be decided on a journal by journal basis. Furthermore the system you describe also completely ignores the widely differing service and teaching burdens borne by colleagues in different institutional situations.

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  6. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    It is not uncommon for me to receive a referee request not long after submitting a paper to a journal that I’d not submitted to or refereed for before. And that has always struck me as completely fair and reasonable.

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  7. David Wallace Avatar
    David Wallace

    I’ve always found it curious that we don’t incentivise people to be referees the same we we incentivise pretty much every other intrinsically-undesirable task in life: by paying them.

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  8. anon grad Avatar
    anon grad

    I like the idea in general, but here’s a potential problem. Suppose a grad student sends a paper to, say, Phil Review that is not close to being publishable. If the system is automatic, then it will ask him/her to referee a paper. But this grad student is not yet qualified to referee for Phil Review. So a choice appears. Either let the student referee the paper (and risk diluting the quality of the articles in the journal) or set up some sort of way to make sure only qualified people can referee. Perhaps one such mechanism would be to only allow as referees those who have published in the journal or in other journals in the consortium. This severely limits the pool of potential referees, but it seems better than barring submissions from grad students or letting unqualified people referee.

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  9. Nate Avatar
    Nate

    One additional problem with making “pay back” refereeing a requirement for submitting work is that it ignores the large percentage of submissions coming from graduate students whom journals would not want serving as referees. While editors could waive the requirement for students, this would leave a significant portion of the “referee gap” unaffected.
    Another potential problem is that, in many cases, a manuscript will get submitted to four or five journals before being accepted by one. This means that the cost of publishing a single manuscript could be submitting as many as eight to ten referee reports, and this seems like a burdensome addition to one’s workload. It may also result in fewer submissions from tenured faculty for whom the publication may not be worth the additional work of refereeing.

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  10. Catarina Dutilh Novaes Avatar

    Thanks all for the useful comments. Perhaps a few clarifications are in order:
    – Of course the burden of refereeing will be higher on more senior members of the profession. My point with requiring people to referee is better formulated in terms of if requested. As I mentioned in the post, what got me thinking about this was seeing many of the people I recently asked to referee for the RSL and declined (thus, by definition people I thought were sufficiently mature intellectually for the job) on the list of people who recently submitted papers to the RSL. If an author does not get a request to referee, then that’s no problem; the annoying thing are people who do get such requests and systematically decline (or do not even bother to answer).
    – Basically, what I was trying to point out is that the whole peer-refereeing thing entails an enormous amount of work done by people other than the author (referees, editors), so I think we should all collectively try to carry this burden in a fairly distributed way. It’s not fair if you only ‘profit’ from the system by submitting articles (even if they are not accepted, people typically spend a lot of time on each submission — except when they don’t, e.g. desk rejections, and that’s equally problematic). Everybody should take up their share.
    So here’s an estimate: if you are a fairly established member of the profession (e.g. not a graduate student, adjunct etc.), and you submit X articles in a year, you should do 3X referee reports: 2X to cover for your own submissions, and an extra X for the surplus of people not in a position to act as a referee themselves. Does that sound reasonable?
    As to how to institutionalize this general idea, I agree that there are all kinds of complications, many of which have been mentioned here. But they shouldn’t detract us from the main point, namely the moral obligation to act as a referee if you also benefit from the system by getting referee reports on your own submissions.
    (How to ensure good, fair referee reports is yet another matter, and possibly an even more complicated one.)

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  11. Catarina Dutilh Novaes Avatar

    At this point, I’m in favor of author anonymity (for the usual implicit biases-related reasons), and disclosure of the referee’s name. In some disciplines, the names of the people who accepted a given paper (editors and reviewers) are printed on the paper when it comes out. But I’m also in favor of referee’s names being known with less favorable reviews, leading to the non-publication of the paper. It’s a matter of accountability.

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  12. Stuart Elden Avatar

    At Society and Space we had similar thoughts a few years ago, and now agreeing to referee is one of our conditions of submission – see point 4 at http://www.envplan.com/dauthors.html I wrote an editorial at the time explaining our thinking – http://www.envplan.com/abstract.cgi?id=d2606eda It has had some impact, but it is still very difficult to get good, timely reports from referees…

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  13. Charles Pigden Avatar

    Caterina suggests that if you are a fairly established member of the profession (e.g. not a graduate student, adjunct etc.), and you submit X articles in a year, you should do 3X referee reports: 2X to cover for your own submissions, and an extra X for the surplus of people not in a position to act as a referee themselves. ‘Does that sound reasonable?’ she asks. Well in one way it does an in another it doesn’t. It would be a reasonable refereeing workload for an established member of the profession and if that were all that they were expected to do they would probably do it promptly. The problem is that things are currently arranged the system would collapse if academically successful philosophers did not do a great deal more than that. And it is because they often get asked to do a lot more than that, that refereeing burn-out sets in, that the as-yet unrefereed papers pile up and that the reports when they appear are often snarky, superficial and dismissive.
    First point to note. The top fifty journals have rejection rates varying between 80 and 95%. This means that the vast majority of PUBLISHED papers are rejected the first, the second and even the third time around. This suggests that the average PUBLISHED paper has generated at least six referee’s reports and that there are probably quite a lot of papers that never see the light of print but which have generated many more.
    Second point to note. You get asked to referee a paper under one or more of three related conditions:
    1) you have published something in the area that has garnered a couple of citations or has otherwise created a stir,
    2) your own work is cited in the paper to be refereed,
    and
    3) you have an established reputation as a reliable referee.
    You don’t have to have to have published all that much in a given area to meet conditions 1) & 2). For example, I have only one publication on truthmaker theory (a coauthored paper with my colleague Colin Cheyne), yet I am often asked to referee papers on truthmakers and negative facts. Obviously you don’t get to meet condition 3) unless you have already done a bit of refereeing, usually, though not necessarily, for the journal that makes the request.
    Now imagine a successful philosopher, call her Sophie, all of whose papers get accepted the first or the second time round. Thus the average number of referee’s reports per published paper that SHE generates is three. Since speedy acceptance is at least roughly correlated with quality, her papers are generally good and are regularly cited in the area or areas in which she works. This means that she often meets conditions 1) & 2) above. Let’s imagine too that Sophie is a conscientious person eager, at least initially, to do her bit for the profession. So she soon acquires a reputation as a reliable referee. Pretty soon the referee requests come flooding in. She gets a lot more than the nine requests per published paper of her own that Caterina’s formula would suggest.
    Now imagine a less successful philosopher, call him Jack. None of Jack’s papers are accepted the first or the second time around. The average number of referee’s reports per published paper that HE generates is nine. Furthermore, since tardy acceptance is at least roughly correlated with poor quality, his papers are pretty ho-hum and are NEVER cited in the area or areas in which he works. (Remember that four years after publication, the median number of citations per philosophy paper is ZERO – that is most papers are not cited AT ALL.) This means that Jack NEVER meets conditions 1) & 2) above. Because he never meets conditions 1) & 2) , he is unlikely to acquire a reputation as reliable referee even if he is a conscientious person with a knack for seeing what is good or bad in other people’s papers despite deficiencies of his own work. Is Jack really going to get the 27 refereeing requests per published paper of his own that he would need to complete in order to meet Caterina’s formula? Obviously not.
    Thus the problem I suggest is this. For structural reasons, the burden of refereeing falls disproportionately on the more successful members of the profession who are the very ones who generate the lowest numbers of referee’s reports. The things that Caterina complains of – refusing to referee and not even answering requests – are in many cases symptoms of burn-out rather than instances of depravity.
    If I am right, this a very tough problem. I have no solutions to offer myself. But there is no hope of a solution until we realize what the problem is and why it is so hard.

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  14. Christy Mag Uidhir Avatar

    For the last 4-5 years, I’d wager I’ve refereed 6-10 papers a year (in 2014 alone, I’ve thus far refereed 10+). What I’ve come to learn is that for every well-worked out, thoughtful, and minimally decent paper I’ve had the pleasure of refereeing, there has been an equal number of poorly constructed, shabbily argued, and all around half-assed papers through which I had to suffer. The sheer number of sub-standard papers I’ve come across I suspect largely the direct result of the marked increase in pressure to publish for grad students; this race to publish (multiple articles no less) prior to going on the market I take to be relative new phenomenon (the last 10-15 years). As a result, for many grad students it seems the default strategy has gone from perhaps submitting a tailored portion of a thoroughly vetted dissertation chapter to just blanketing journals with all manner of philosophical detritus: e.g., old seminar papers, underdeveloped, shoddily constructed conference papers, or pet projects as yet seen by any eyes other than the author’s. While admittedly I submitted my fair share of utter horse-shit 10 years ago, I see the high volume of low-quality submissions I’ve had to referee the last few years more than just me reaping the horse-shit whirlwind from that which I’ve sewn. Instead, I see a new generation of grad students who pressured into early publication resort to engaging in unprofessional, irresponsible, and ultimately destructive journal-submission practices.
    My advice for grad students is that before you submit a paper to a journal, consult the following checklist:
    1. Has someone other than you read the paper? If NO, Do Not Submit.
    2. Was it a professional and previously (if not also extensively) published philosopher? If NO, Do Not Submit.
    3. Has this philosopher indicated to you that the paper is publishable in its current form absent further revision? If NO, Do Not Submit.
    4. Have you made extensive and guided revisions to the paper since its initial draft? If NO, Do Not Submit.
    5. Have you spoken with a well-published philosopher (in your field) about appropriate journals to which to send the paper? If NO, Do Not Submit.
    6. Did you fucking proof-read that shit for format, grammar, spelling, and style errors more than once? If NO, Fucking Die & Do Not Submit.
    In the interests of fairness here, I should note that it’s often hard to distinguish between shitty papers written by desperate grad students scrambling for a notch on the CV and shitty papers written by lazy-assed tenured philosophers who should fucking know better, as they both have a tendency to focus on issues long dead, dormant, or otherwise peripheral, display an impressive ignorance of the literature from the last 5 years, prefer haughty derision and glossy hand-waving to basic charity and well-structured argument, and refuse to engage in simple copyediting tasks or pay even scant attention to basic formatting details.

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  15. Catarina Dutilh Novaes Avatar

    Thanks, that’s extremely helpful, very much along the lines of the thoughts I was trying to articulate here.

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  16. Charles Pigden Avatar

    I sympathize with Christy Uidhir’s problem as I too have ploughed through my share of rubbishy papers in my capacity as a referee. However I disagree with his solution as unduly deferential. You don’t need the say-so of a senior philosophy to produce up-to-snuff work. A healthy dose of self-criticism suffices. Most of my first seven papers only met one or at most three of his six conditions (the one being the one about meeting basic copy-editing standards) but I went ahead and submitted anyway. Only one of them was substantially revised in response to prior criticism. They came out inter alia in the AJP, PQ, Sophia and Inquiry and have an average of 16.4 citations to date. So don’t hang around waiting for Professor Eminent to give your stuff the nod. Just try to develop some sense of what is and is not good.

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  17. Christy Mag Uidhir Avatar

    Charles, correct me please if I am mistaken, but you finished your grad work in 1985 but the publications of yours to which you refer are from 1987-1990, suggesting that when you submitted them, you weren’t a grad student. My advice was directed not at junior faculty but at those who have yet to finish their degrees.
    As to your other points, I don’t think its an unduly deferential suggestion that prior to submitting their work to journals graduate students with no publishing background first actively solicit the advice and critical eyes of those with established publishing track records (e.g., the philosophy faculty by which they find themselves surrounded on a daily basis). In fact, I’m not entirely sure how grad students would go about developing some sense of what it and is not good unless they do the very things mentioned in my checklist. The authors of the rubbish referees encounter so often don’t genuinely think their papers are shit but submit them anyway in the hopes that some editorial snafu will see them through to publication. Their work is rubbish because their sense of what is and is not good is also rubbish. The best way to begin correcting for this is simply to consult (use, exploit) the relevant experts on such matters and defer to their judgements. While referees are such experts, my suggestion for grad students is that they first seek out the advice of those relevant experts already in such immediate, overabundant, and readily accessible supply who also happen to be in possession of prima facie obligations to do just that: advise them.

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  18. Christy Mag Uidhir Avatar

    Also, my surname is [Mag Uidhir].

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  19. Stuart Elden Avatar

    Society and Space editor Mary Thomas adds some comments on this here – http://societyandspace.com/2014/05/29/the-problems-of-peer-review/

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  20. Sara L. Uckelman Avatar

    Most electronic journal submissions software that I’ve used has, when you sign up for an account with that journal, a tickbox where you can indicate if you’re available as a referee for that journal. I always tick that box, though I’ve never seen any correlation between doing so and actually being asked to referee. But I would be very nervous about submitting to a journal which would require me to referee for them — twice! — within a year before my paper could be published. There are a number of reasons why: First, though I’ve received a steady stream of referee requests over the last 3-4 years, I’ve never received more than one from a single journal in a year (in fact, as an editor myself, I would be extremely reluctant to ask a referee more than once a year, unless the previous request was declined for reasons of time with an invitation to try again later). Second, many of the papers that I submit are specialized enough that other papers submitted to the same journal I would not be qualified to referee. Suppose that I received a request from such a journal, then I’d be in the position of either declining, and thus delaying or even preventing my own paper from being published, or accepting, and producing a referee report which is, ultimately, not terribly helpful to either the editors or the author. Third, this post opened up with the idea that we want to reduce the number of false negatives — decent quality papers that should be published and aren’t. It seems that an arrangement whereby one must first referee before one’s paper is published will result in the exact opposite: This will encourage false negatives because people will not submit to journals which might otherwise have published their papers because they can’t commit to the refereeing requirement; or they will submit but then be unable to meet the refereeing requirement resulting the the delay in or even complete lack of publication of the paper.

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  21. Charles Pigden Avatar

    First Christy let me apologize for getting your name wrong. I can assure you that my own surname is so frequently mangled, mispronounced and misspelled (even though it is totally phonetic) that I have been amply visited with preemptive fairy punishment. At least I got your gender right which I would not have done had I not taken the trouble to check up on you, as I tend to think of ‘Christy’ as a mainly female name
    Second let me congratulate you on doing your homework. My first seven articles were indeed published between 1987 and 1990 and it was indeed in 1985 that I completed my doctorate.
    However what you were not to know is that three of my first seven papers (including the two that were subsequently published in PQ with a total of 39 citations between them) were only slightly modified versions of essays that I submitted in an appendix to my PhD thesis (already pushing the world-limit) in 1985. Of these, one (14 citations) is a lightly revised version of a paper that I delivered at Adelaide in (I think) 1982. To the best of my recollection, none of these three papers got the kind of treatment that you recommend. The reason I did not publish them there and then is a) that it was not so necessary in those days and b) that my work habits, then as now, were a bit on the dilatory side. A fourth paper, derived from the thesis (with a current total of 54 citations) WAS substantially revised in the light of criticisms, but even there is it was not the kind of ‘guided’ revision that you seem to have in mind. (I needed help dealing with some criticisms and generalizing a formal result). A fifth paper (Inquiry: seven citations) was wholly written in 1986 when I was 29 in the seventh year out from my BA, that is when I was two or three years younger than many American ABDs. That paper too got nothing like the treatment you recommend. So my point remains. It is perfectly possible, at least for some people, to publish up-to-snuff material as a postgraduate without going through the rigmarole you suggest. And the proof is that I myself could have done this, and failed to do so only because of poor work habits. {I remark in passing that the one thing I DID publish as a postgraduate – a review – has been cited by both Mark Platts and Frank Jackson. I don’t think I showed it to anyone.]
    There’s another problem too which may not have occurred to a person such as yourself educated at Rutgers in the highly populous Tri-state area which is, of course, absolutely chocca with high-end philosophy departments. It’s this. If you are an aspiring postgraduate, there may not be a senior philosopher in the vicinity with the expertise needed to comment on your papers. Take my ‘Anscombe on “Ought”’ (1988) which was substantially completed before I finished my PhD in 1985. A large part of it is a historical critique of Anscombe’s argument drawing extensively on the Cicero and the British moralists. I very much doubt whether there was in all of Melbourne any philosophically qualified person who knew more about these matters than I did. I continued to be the most knowledgeable local person on these topics in Dunstable, Dunedin and Palmerston North (look them up!) which is where I was living when I polished the paper off.
    What your advice presupposes is that postgraduates in general are not competent to submit papers without detailed oversight and supervision. I think that this is simply false. But your implicit assumption that there WILL be a senior person with the expertise to provide detailed supervision suggests something else. You are inclined to think that if a postgraduate paper is to be any good it likely to be a footnote on somebody else’s research program, presumably that of the senior philosopher who is going to comment on it. In other words you are assuming that young philosophers should resign themselves to the role of junior attendant lords in something like T.S Elliot’s sense:
    No! I am not Prince Hamlet nor was meant to be;

    Am an attendant lord, one that will do

    To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
    
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,

    Deferential, glad to be of use,
    Politic cautious, and meticulous;
    
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;

    At times, indeed, almost ridiculous – 

    Almost, at times, the Fool.
    Now I can’t help thinking that a culture in which young philosophers must resign themselves to the role of swelling progresses and starting scenes is unduly conformist and deferential. I don’t want to suggest of course, that nobody should ever listen to advice or submit their work to a suitable mentor. But there is a mean, I think, between being as arrogant as I once was (and perhaps still am) and being as timid, deferential and subservient as you want young philosophers to be.
    Finally, you ask how are young philosophers get a sense of what is good and what is not WITHOUT the officious mentoring that you demand? Well, the answer is that the best way to get a feel for what good philosophy looks like is to read the works of those widely regarded as good or even great philosophers, especially those notable for wit, style and clarity. If reading Quine, Russell or the early Putnam (to name three of my youthful heroes) has not given you a clue, then all the mentoring in the world is not likely to do you much good.

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  22. Charles Pigden Avatar

    Of course none of the above addresses the points I raised earlier on this thread. There are structural features of the reviewing process that make it likely that the lion’s share of the refereeing will be done by the most successful philosophers who generate the smallest number of referee’s reports per published paper. Hence the phenomenon of referee burnout which I suspect partially explains the bad behavior that Caterina was initially complaining of. Suppose my imaginary Sophie publishes at three time the rate of Jack. She publishes three papers per annum, two being accepted by the first journal she sends them to, generating eight referee’s reports. Jack’s one paper per annum will have generated an average of nine referee’s reports. Suppose Sophie applies Caterina’s formula. She writes twelve referee’s reports, one for each of the reports she herself has generated, plus four for those not in a position to write them. Between the two of them Sophie and Jack will have generated seventeen reports but since Jack never gets asked to do any refereeing, that means that other members of the philosophical community will be required to write the extra five reports to compensate for the work that Sophie and Jack have generated between the two of them. Of course Sophie might be aware of the problem and might decide to up her rate of refereeing to four times the number of her submissions. But if she is doing sixteen reports per annum, refereeing fatigue and even burnout begin to be a problem.
    Of course there are things that can be done.
    1) The journal that accepts Jack’s paper can keep him in mind as a future referee. Even so, he is unlikely to be doing anywhere near as much refereeing work as he tends to generate.
    2) When Sophie feels that all that refereeing is a touch too much, she can recommend somebody else. But unless she is not only successful but CONNECTED she may not know who else to recommend. (This is a problem that I sometimes have a) because I live at the ends of the earth and b) because I dabble in a lot of areas which means I don’t always know the right people to nominate. ). Moreover the people Sophie knows may very well be in the same situation since her philosophical buddies are likely to be more or less as successful as she is. Jack, even if he is in her area, may not even be on her horizon.
    So the problem remains . At the individual level the right thing to do is to accept all refereeing requests unless you are absolutely snowed under. But this is not an entirely happy policy as the guys and girls who can’t say ‘no’ end up in a terrible fix with more papers pending than they can competently or promptly complete.

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  23. Christy Mag Uidhir Avatar

    Charles, I think we’ve come to an impasse here. What I take to be straightforwardly sensible sorts of suggestions for grad students looking to publish, you see as an insidious campaign to press and indoctrinate grad students into joining the Junior Sycophant Corps (Spineless Lackey Division). How about a compromise? I’ll referee the grad student submissions satisfying my checklist, and you referee those from grad students who’ve read some Quine.

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  24. Kean Avatar

    A few comments: in my experience refereeing tends to fall more on junior academics (they have more time?), and not senior figures who tend to reject approaches more often than not (in social sciences at least). Juniors also tend to offer much longer (and often harsher) judgements than senior academics (for one reason or another).
    Couple of suggestions …
    Refereeing could be made into a more rigorously policed two-stage process:
    (1) referees do quick read to make judgement about whether paper is worth refereeing;
    (2) if paper passes #1 then they do a long review with suggestions for changes etc.
    The backend of refereeing could then be changed to better reflect the contribution referees make; for example, it might be a good idea to add the names of referees (plus editors) to each article to better reflect the fact that journal publishing is a collective process.
    As a final issues, it might be helpful if all rejected papers were listed in the journal at the end of the year, plus the referees/editors names next to them. Provides some sense of their contribution then.

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  25. Charles Pigden Avatar

    Happy to call a truce with Christy. I do have worries about an excessively deferential philosophical culture but this is not the place to air them. Returning to Caterina’s post I want to suggest that her idea is not going to solve the problem which is that more successful philosophers get to do most of the refereeing leading to burnout, duty-dodging and unanswered emails. (It’s like not opening bills that you know you cannot pay.) Caterina suggests that it should be a convention that if your paper is accepted, you agree to do at least two referee’s reports for the journal in question. My imaginary Sophie, a highly successful philosopher, publishes three papers per annum, two accepted at the first port of call, the third accepted by her second-choice journal. So she generates eight referees reports every year. If her policy was only to referee two papers for each of the journals in which she publishes, that would leave a shortfall in her accounts with the philosophical community of two papers per annum. Meanwhile, Jack publishes one paper per annum but generates nine referee’s reports. If he referees two papers for the journal in which he publishes, that leaves him with a shortfall of seven. That still leaves nine referee’s reports to be written by somebody else.
    Another way to look at the problem is this. Suppose we have a journal publishing twenty articles per year with a rejection rate of 80%. To simplify things we will assume that the journal doesn’t do ‘Revise & Resubmit’ (since revised and resubmitted papers tend to generate at least three referee’s reports). The journal has to organize two hundred referee’s reports every year. If it relied on the successfully published to write two reports each, that would still leave a shortfall of 160 reports to be written by other people.
    Here’s another statistic, this time a genuine one. I have refereed for at least 31 journals, maybe more (in the past I was a bit slack about noting them down ). But I have only published in five of them, though there are three journals in which I HAVE published which don’t’ seem to have sought my services so far. (Hey Inquiry! Hey Logique et Analyse! Hey, Intellectual History Review! I guess I should be putting my hand up here!), If, as I suspect, this is not unusual for a philosopher of my age and standing, what this suggests is that the system would simply break down if some of us weren’t prepared to do a LOT more refereeing for a LOT more journals than Caterina’s formula requires, especially as I think that I have overfulfilled my quota for the journals in which I have published most (AJP, PQ, PSSS) and done my duty by some of the others.
    Now Caterina might reply that although her suggestion cannot solve the problem by itself it would at least be a beginning. But even here I’m not sure. For it may be that many of those delinquent non-referees with papers out or forthcoming in the JSL are not non-referees PERIOD but non-referees NOW, people who have done a lot of refereeing in the past and feel either that they done their fair share or as much as they can do without damage to their mental health or without neglecting other duties. (Caterina’s electronically assisted editorial eye sees the duties neglected NOW not the duties that may have been amply fulfilled by the supposed delinquents in the past.) Thus Caterina’s convention suffers from two drawbacks.
    1) A journal that insisted on it might be doing itself a damage by putting off talented submitters who feel that I they have already done their bit.
    2) A journal that insisted on it might be doing an injustice by putting off talented submitters who RIGHTLY feel that they have already done their bit.
    As against all this there is an important point to note. Academia generally and philosophy in particular can be regarded as mini-economies in which we are a paid in the currency of attention. Unfortunately, in Robert Frank’s phrase, they winner-takes-all economies in which the vast majority get next to nothing and a fortunate few are widely read and cited. (Luckily they are not winner-takes-all FINANCIAL economies, as though a successful professor may have hundreds of times the citations of his colleagues, he won’t have a hundred times the salary.) But if I am right about the way refereeing works, this is burden a that tends to fall on the successful rather than unsuccessful, the winners rather than the losers. Perhaps they should thank their lucky stars and just suck it up.

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  26. Neil Avatar
    Neil

    Some relevant discussion, and some data, here:
    scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2014/05/28/what-motivates-reviewers-an-experiment-in-economics/

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