This is the first of a three-part series featuring in-depth interviews with philosophers who have left academia. This part (part 1) focuses on their philosophical background, the jobs they have now, and why they left academia. Part 2 examines the realities of having a non-academic job and how it compares to a life in academia. In part 3, finally, the interviewees reflect on the transferable skills of a PhD in philosophy, and offer concrete advice on those who want to consider a job outside of academia. 

Does having a PhD in philosophy mean your work opportunities have narrowed down to the academic job market? This assumption seems widespread, for example, a recent Guardian article declares that programs should accept fewer graduate students as there aren’t enough academic jobs for all those PhDs. Yet academic skills are transferrable: philosophy PhDs are independent thinkers who can synthesize and handle large bodies of complex information, write persuasively as they apply for grants, and they can speak for diverse kinds of audiences. 

How do those skills translate concretely into the non-academic job market? To get a clearer picture of this, I conducted interviews with 7 philosophers who work outside of academia. They are working as consultant, software engineers, ontologist (not the philosophical sense of ontology), television writer, self-employed counselor, and government statistician. Some were already actively considering non-academic employment as graduate students, for others the decision came later—for one informant, after he received tenure. 

These are all success stories. They are not intended to be a balanced representation of the jobs former academics hold. Success stories can provide a counterweight to the steady drizzle of testimonies of academic disappointment, where the inability to land a tenure track position is invariably couched in terms of personal failure, uncertainty, unhappiness and financial precarity. In this first part, I focus on what kinds of jobs the respondents hold, and how they ended up in non-academic jobs in the public and private sector. Why did they leave academia? What steps did they concretely take to get their current position? 

I hope this series of posts will empower philosophy PhDs who find their current situation less than ideal, especially—but no only—those in non-tenure track position, to help them take steps to find a nonacademic career that suits them. And even if one’s academic job is as close to a dreamjob as one can conceivable get, it’s still fascinating to see what a PhD in philosophy can do in the wider world.


A short methodological note: All interviews were conducted via e-mail or instant messaging. They have not been edited, except for some added ellipses and a few corrections of typographic errors. I am very grateful that the philosophers interviewed here devoted their time to giving such detailed answers.

What kinds of non-academic jobs do they have?

The philosophers I interviewed work in a variety of sectors, and have divergent philosophical backgrounds.

Zachary Ernst has a PhD in philosophy of biology from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, with a dissertation on evolutionary game theory in 2002, and has worked as an assistant professor at Florida State, before moving on to the University of Missouri-Colombia, where he received tenure a few years later.

He left academia last year "I decided to explore the private sector for other opportunities because I wasn't happy at my job at the University of Missouri. Surprisingly, I got a couple of excellent job offers right away, and took one with Narrative Science, which is a Chicago-based startup with about forty employees. The company has a patented technology for transforming quantitative data into English-language narrative reports. My position is "software engineer”."

Eric Kaplan studied at Columbia and at UC Berkeley, focusing on phenomenology (Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Heidegger, Merleau-Ponty) and a variety of issues in analytic philosophy, including philosophy of mind and philosophy of language with advisors Donald Davidson John Searle Bernard Williams and Hubert Dreyfus. 

Currently he is a television comedy writer and producer, probably best known for the Big Bang theory "I have worked on such shows as Late Show with David Letterman, Futurama, Flight of the Conchords and the Big Bang Theory.  I also have my own production studio—Mirari Films—and have done The Drinky Crow Show, Hey It's Fluffy with Gabe Iglesias there as well as other projects."

Claartje van Sijl obtained her PhD in philosophy at Utrecht University, working on Stoicism in its social and cultural context, in particular its relationship to the Greco-Roman religious and mythical tradition, as represented by e.g. Homer.

After her PhD, she founded her own company, Van Sijl Counseling and Training "About half way through my PhD project I knew I did not want to continue in academia…After a lot of thought and self reflection I realized I love to talk face to face with people about topics that they really, personally care about and see how I can make a positive difference in their lives. I also really like the curiosity and enormous intrinsic motivation of researchers. Hence the plan to combine the two and become a professional counselor for early career researchers. When I defended my PhD thesis, this was not so clear yet. I distinctly remember myself telling my former colleagues after my defense that I did not consider becoming self-employed ever in my life. One year later I was at the chamber of commerce to found my own coaching and training company."

Ian Niles studied at the University of California, Irvine, focusing on philosophy of language. He wrote his dissertation on Wittgenstein.

"After I finished my doctorate, I wasn't much interested in teaching, and I was even less interested in teaching at colleges in small towns in the Midwest and Southeast, which is where my friends mostly ended up.  After another year of soul-searching and hanging around UC Irvine, I decided that I was much more interested in doing something related to the Internet, which was just beginning to take off…"

"My current position is Senior Ontologist [at Microsoft], and my charter is to maintain and extend the ontology that is used by the Bing search engine. Information retrieval is increasingly focused on entity graphs rather than document graphs for improving search relevance, and organizing the high-level structure of these entity graphs is really a philosophical undertaking.  It's a matter of finding a complete, consistent conceptualization of everything that would be of interest to a search engine."

Nate Smith did his PhD at UC Davis in Philosophy, focusing on the philosophy of biology. His dissertation was "Essentialist Heuristics in Biology", which was an effort to make sense of why biologists seem to keep making essentialist assumptions.

 "I…probably would have been able to find some kind of academic job, but I chose not to pursue it. I currently work as a Quality Assurance Engineer for a network security company. I work on a small team of software engineers, and am responsible for the testing of our software products. I come up with testing strategies, write test cases and run them, research new ways to test things efficiently, and do some light programming in automating our testing so I don't have to do the same thing by hand over and over. I have a lot of flexibility in how I approach things, and I enjoy figuring out cool new ways to do my job well."

Carl Baker received his PhD from the University of Leeds. "My philosophical work has mostly been at the intersection of philosophy of language and aesthetics. I was centrally interested in the notion of disagreement and its role in these two sub-disciplines. My doctoral thesis was on the role of arguments from disagreement in the debate over aesthetic relativism."

He started working as a statistical researcher at the House of Commons Library in February this year.

Emilie Prattico’s interest in philosophy started already in high school in France, which she followed up with a study in philosophy and theology at Oxford, and then a PhD in Northwestern in 2012. "My research evolved considerably as I spent time at Northwestern and I was very fortunate to study with some wonderful philosophers and teachers, including Jürgen Habermas. My field of research was political philosophy, specifically the role of science and experts in democratic decision-making. I started my teaching career during my second year of graduate school, which was challenging since I was only 21!"

Currently she works as an independent consultant in sustainability. "I work with Fortune 500 companies, NGOs, and local governments."

 

Leaving academia: Why and when?

Several of the interviewees already thought of leaving academia while they were still in graduate school or had just finished their PhD. Dissatisfaction with academia, especially its increasing reliance on precarious contingent labor, the pressure to publish, uncertainty about an academic future, no control over the geographic location where they would end up working, were decisive factors. Loneliness and lack of collaborative opportunities were also mentioned several times.

Nate Smith: "Somewhere around year 3 [in grad school], I realized that all the hard work to prove myself good enough to get an academic job had no end in sight. It was all pretty stressful, and getting a job was just going to be the beginning. I was looking at years and years before I'd ever even have a chance at getting tenure somewhere (maybe like 10!), and I was starting to dread it. I love philosophy, but I think I just didn't love it quite enough to be willing to subject myself to everything that was going to be required to be successful. I wanted to get on with my life, and pursue other things that didn't have anything to do with philosophy. Academic philosophy was totally consuming my life, and I just didn't like how unbalanced it felt. Then I realized, I don't HAVE to do this to myself. All this, and there wasn't even any guarantee of success."

Eric Kaplan: "I decided to work in the private sector in 1996 after I had completed my oral exam.  I was worried about the tightness of the job market, and also thought it would be fun to try writing for a bigger audience."

Emilie Prattico does not feel she has an overarching reason, but several strands of academic culture increasingly dissatisfied her as she progressed through graduate school "I had the expectation that philosophical studies would seep more clearly into the lives of philosophers, but it became obvious to me that academic philosophy was just like any other job. Moreover, I was disappointed to find that among people who devoted their lives to philosophy, there were so many who were dogmatic, petty, and not open to cooperation."

"Also, I started graduate school just as the job market was becoming alarmingly saturated (which has led to the poor state of affairs it's in today, cf. the whole adjunct situation), which meant that it got more competitive and more stressful. There's nothing wrong with competition in itself, but I find it counterproductive to philosophical research if it means that you will churn out papers for publication before you have a good idea. The pressure to publish in order to get tenure seemed wholly artificial to me from a philosophical point of view. So to sum up I would say there was a personal dimension to my disappointment and a philosophical one."

For Claartje van Sijl, the initial plan was to become an academic, but she revised it "About half way through my PhD project I knew I did not want to continue in academia. I had no idea what to do, because all I ever pictured in my post PhD future was a happy ever after life as an academic. And so did almost everyone around me. At the start of my PhD I married my wonderful partner who also pursued a PhD in philosophy and an academic career after that. Our family life choices certainly impacted the direction of my career. Pretty soon into our PhD’s we realized that waiting for job security before starting a family made no sense with at least 10+ years of temporary projects ahead on the academic route. We got our first child about midway into our PhD’s, our second was born just after I handed in my manuscript (a planning I do not recommend to anyone who likes their sanity), and our third was born a year ago."

"During my PhD I felt lonely, despite the camaraderie with my fellow PhD candidates. In my work I was mainly involved with people who are dead anywhere between 50 and almost 2500 years. I struggled with issues such as finding the purpose and meaning of my work, fear and feeling stuck, so much so that I sought external help from a coach. This was one of the better decisions in my PhD."

Two informants only came to the non-academic sector later. Strikingly, Zachary Ernst, left a tenured position. Next to his dissatisfaction with the position he held, he also observes:  "I strongly believe that higher education in the United States is on an accelerating downward trajectory, and that it's not possible to reverse it for the foreseeable future. And my major complaints about academia are structural, not specific to any particular department. The combination of funding cuts, the invasion of short-term business values into universities, and union-busting techniques being applied to tenured faculty, are all working together to undermine higher education. So despite the fact that there are some significant drawbacks to working in the private sector, it's still the place where I feel I can have the greatest positive impact."

Carl Baker comments on the increasing precarity of people on the UK job market, for whom a string of postdoctoral positions is increasingly becoming the norm "My decision to speculatively seek work outside of academia was largely related to the instability of employment for early career academics and a general loss of confidence in my academic work. I held a fixed-term postdoc, due to expire in 2015, and was beginning to have to consider my next move in the academic job market. The most likely trajectory was another fixed-term job, and probably another after that, with little prospect of a permanent job or the chance to live in a single location for more than a year or two. The sheer instability and unpredictability of all this had begun to damage my mental health."  

 

Actively seeking non-academic employment

Even though for some respondents non-academic work was a plan B, it became clear that looking for employment outside of academia that capitalizes on these skills requires careful strategizing and planning. All my respondents took active steps in terms of additional training, networking.

Claartje van Sijl "Before and after my PhD project I had briefly worked as a student advisor. That experience, plus conversations with fellow PhD candidates showed me that I easily let people feel safe to open up and have deep, helpful conversations. I professionalised that by enrolling in a coaching and training program a couple of months after my thesis defense. During that program I realised that self-employment is a common and convenient working format for coaches and trainers, so I checked out the information available on the websites of the chamber of commerce etc. for formal requirements of owning a business. I learned that focus is key in business: clearly defined problems and clearly defined ideal clients. I have seen people adrift with ill or undefined target groups."

"I took a summer to write texts for my website and marketing materials. I am glad I did, because after 3 years they are still valid and I get compliments for their clarity and authenticity… With all formalities and signboards in place I told a lot of people in my network about my company, especially those who professionally meet a lot of PhD’s and postdocs and could recommend me to them. This took some courage because it felt like I was kind of disowning the academic standards of philosophical quality as well as accusing academia for not providing their PhD’s with the support they need. Moreover, I was reinventing myself and presenting myself as an expert I did not yet truly feel I was…Nevertheless, I was very happy when the first clients came in."

Ian Niles "I enrolled in the Library School at Syracuse University…, and after I graduated I went to work for a start-up that had just been founded by one of my professors at the Library School.  I was a researcher at the company, and I focused on applying computational linguistics and information science to improving search relevance.  There were a lot of interesting problems to solve, and I actually found that my philosophy background allowed me to come up with solutions that hadn't occurred to other researchers at the company.  After this job, I worked for several other software companies before coming to Microsoft in 2006."

Zachary Ernst: “When academics have asked me how my skills transferred over to the private sector, they typically are thinking too narrowly — looking for a specific skill (like programming) that I might have acquired as an academic philosopher"

"I've been programming off and on since I was ten years old, but never professionally. I was a competent programmer by the time I applied for jobs, but I was not at a professional level. Although I had studied some math and a lot of formal logic, almost none of that is directly applicable to my current job. And I was totally up-front with potential employers that I would have to learn a lot before I could fully contribute to their projects."

Carl Baker "The main obstacle was becoming aware of how the skills I had developed during my time as a graduate student, philosophy teacher and postdoc could be transferred to other professions. If I had to highlight one weakness in my postgraduate training it would be the lack of discussion of how the skills developed during a philosophy PhD can be used elsewhere. It is often easy to think that someone qualified in philosophy is simply useless in any other area. I found this piece by Mike Steiner a very useful starting point in reflecting on the 'transferrability' of my skills… Beyond this I simply applied for positions which seemed to match closely with my qualifications, interest and experience. I also applied for a few posts at 'dream' institutions, like the House of Commons, and was lucky enough to be shortlisted for the latter.”

Emilie Prattico, who quite early on in her graduate study at Northwestern felt she did not want to become an academic, took steps already during that time to increase her skills and marketability in the private sector “As my doctoral research was coming to an end, I became more and more passionate about the practical implications of the issues I was writing about: the obfuscation of issues of justice by so-called scientific discourse, to put it succinctly. This made me look at concrete cases concerning, for instance, climate change. From there, my interest in corporate sustainability and the link between policy and corporations grew stronger and stronger. At the same time, I was pretty sure that corporations would be reluctant to hire a philosopher without more corporate/business/private sector experience. For me, the best way to acquire that without going for yet another internship was to go to business school — so that's what I did! It allowed me to meet many actors in the field, to build a network, and to read a balance sheet and learn how to calculate an R.O.I. I then entered the private sector at a very prestigious strategy consulting firm, which I thought would further strengthen my assets as a sustainability consultant. After a few months, I left the firm since it was time to focus more on sustainability. I've been working independently for ca. 18 months."

Stay tuned for part 2, where the philosophers working outside of academia discuss the everyday realities of their work, and how it compares to their previous academic experience. 

 

 

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26 responses to “Philosophers who work outside of academia – Part 1: How and why do they end up there?”

  1. Chris Gadsden Avatar
    Chris Gadsden

    I am also a philosophy PhD working in another field — ministry. My education (analytic philosophy) equipped me to better handle the deep questions people are asking, especially ethical and religious questions. Training in epistemology and cognitive science also help me understand how a person’s beliefs are formed and how they change.

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  2. John Avatar
    John

    Thanks so much for this. This is incredible timing for me. I am heading into my fifth year at my graduate program, and while I fully intend to finish my dissertation, I’m much less sure that I want to go on in academia. This is mostly because even though I love philosophy (even more than I did when I entered graduate school), I don’t love academic philosophy. I constantly find myself having to put aside paths of research that seem to me interesting because they’re not related to my dissertation or my teaching, or because they’re not “hot topics” in the big journals, all of which seems to me really intellectually dissatisfying. Being able to see what other PhDs have decided to do and how it compares to their lives in academia is exactly the sort of resource I need to help me make an informed decision about my future.

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  3. Marcus Arvan Avatar

    Helen: I really want to thank you for researching and posting on this. I think it’s terribly important. I know a lot of people out there who think there are “no options” besides academia for a person with a philosophy PhD. I think it’s wonderful that (1) you’re giving concrete cases that there are options (and desirable-looking ones at that!), and (2) your interviews give people an idea of how they might pursue alternative options effectively. Anyway, I just want to reiterate that I think it is really, really cool that you are doing this. I very much look forward to future installments!!

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  4. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    I agree with everyone else — great piece, Helen, and really worthwhile. Looking forward to the other two parts!
    Do you have a link to the Mike Steiner article that Carl Baker mentions? It sounds like it might be a useful one.
    Maybe an added component of this, from the faculty side, is coming to terms with your students’ choices. Speaking personally, I am really happy to see Nate flourishing, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t miss having him as a fellow academic, especially when a topic comes up that I know he worked on or thought about.

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  5. Helen De Cruz Avatar

    Thanks, everyone. I’m glad it’s helpful.
    Roberta: I was thinking how valuable it is to have philosophy PhDs flourishing outside of academia. Even if they could have had a good career in academia, it is valuable that members of our profession are making an impact elsewhere. I always suspected that The Big Bang Theory must have had a philosopher in their script writers, given that I often use TBBT footage as illustrations for my classes (esp my philosophy of science classes). So I was happy to see that confirmed!

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  6. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    It’s worth noting that just because someone leaves academia, it doesn’t mean they still can’t contribute to the field. I took a private sector job a couple of years ago, but I still referee papers for journals and conferences, I still read work that people send me, and I still attend talks in my local area. As a profession we’ll have to get accustomed to some of our members working outside the walls of academia. Just because our day job isn’t teaching it doesn’t mean we need to stop working as philosophers.

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  7. Roberta L. Millstein Avatar

    Good points, Helen and Matthew! That helps. 🙂

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  8. M Lister Avatar

    I’m not sure if I’m happy or sad that there are no lawyers in this group. (I’m serious about that!) Of course, you have to have a different degree to be a lawyer, so it’s different than those above, and good to highlight people doing interesting work w/o a law degree. But, on the other hand, it’s a fairly normal thing to do to get a JD, and many of the same skills are relevant (clear writing, analytic skills, ability to spend a lot of hours reading really dull texts without the eyes getting too glazed over, etc.)
    It’s worth noting that just because someone leaves academia, it doesn’t mean they still can’t contribute to the field. I took a private sector job a couple of years ago, but I still referee papers for journals and conferences, I still read work that people send me, and I still attend talks in my local area.
    For what it’s worth, the last year I’ve been in a non-academic position, and have reviewed a half dozen papers or more, and reviewed a book for the NDPR, among other things.

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  9. Eric Winsberg Avatar

    I think the character named ‘Kripke” is the main giveaway.

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  10. Helen De Cruz Avatar

    It would have been wonderful to hear your perspective as well (you are very welcome to do so in the comments if you like)! I’ve often wondered what I would do in this case (i.e., working outside of academia). On the one hand, I love reading philosophy and doing philosophy and it would be hard to let go of that entirely. On the other hand, some of the service work you describe is not always fun (reviewing papers etc, I’m wondering if I’d feel obligated – as I do now – to referee papers if I weren’t an academic).

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  11. Helen De Cruz Avatar

    At this point, I’d like to make a general comment in response to some e-mails I have received about the representativeness etc. of the people interviewed. This blogpost was inspired by several friends who are contemplating a move outside of academia. While there is an emerging Internet literature on postacademic careers, I thought it would be useful to hear specifically from philosophy PhDs, and to hear in-depth about the paths they took to get there. To that end, I contacted some people I knew who were former academics, and got some referrals from people who knew philosophers working outside of academia. I then very quickly ended up with 7 people I could interview, which, given the format of a blogpost, is already quite a large sample.
    So if the philosophers interviewed here do not provide the full spectrum of postacademic careers for philosophers, or a full geographic range (now I have people from the US, the UK and The Netherlands), this is because of the modest scope and aims of this project, which is not intended to be a full-blown sociological study. I think it would be interesting to do a large sociological study on PhDs who work outside of academia, which of course, would involve proper sampling techniques and so on (given that I think grad schools don’t keep a detailed record of non-academic placement, some amount of referral sampling would be inevitable, I think).

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  12. Jasper Avatar
    Jasper

    What a great idea, Helen. Thank you for doing this! For me personally, your posts come at exactly the right time. I’m finishing up my dissertation this summer, a dissertation I started working on with high hopes of being able to become a professional philosopher and teacher, and that I’m finishing with a sense of disappointment mixed with disillusionment. I’ve read widely about the university, the humanities, and their current state, which often added to a lingering pessimism. But I also feel (increasingly) hopeful, and these interviews contribute so much to that!
    It took me a while to reframe my sense of self after I realized I probably didn’t want to and wouldn’t be able to become an academic. I used to think one was either ‘in’ or ‘out’ – a philosopher, or not a philosopher. In that light, failing to secure a job would mean failing a dream I’d had since high school. But luckily I found out that there’s no essential link between being employed as a academic philosopher on the one hand, and enjoying to and being able to read, learn, discuss, think, interpret, and reflect on the other. I hope to continue doing all of that, whatever new opportunity crosses my path. And I’m sure I’ll meet lots of people outside of academia who feel the same, while staying in touch with those within it who understand and support former graduate students even as they return to being ‘amateur’ philosophers (in both senses of the word).
    What you’re doing here is wonderful. I’m eagerly looking forward to the next two posts!

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  13. georgiana Avatar
    georgiana

    Very inspiring! I would like to know whether you will interview in the future some more phd holders from Europe and other parts of the world. I think in the US it’s easier to change carrier, drastically, and even if you are a ‘grown up’ you can go back to school, or sell your skills with a new package. In Europe for instance it is rare that someone on his 30s decides to be a lawyer, or it is also rare that someone moves from one field to another easily in his 30s or 40s, … The reason why this is more difficult is related to many factors, I cannot take into consideration now. It would be very interesting to learn some more about European cases, and how their choice and decision was made, given the inflexibility that is typical in this society. Thanks! G

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  14. Ronnie Hawkins Avatar
    Ronnie Hawkins

    I recently took “early retirement” from a tenured position teaching philosophy at a large state university because of my serious dissatisfaction, not just with academic philosophy, but with academia in general. I went into philosophy after an education in biology and medicine because I had starting discovering that humanity was destroying the other life and the ecological systems integral to Life on Earth–this was in the days before everybody knew about global warming, but the extinction of species was obviously on the rise–and I wanted to find out why (what was wrong with our way of thinking, that we would willfully destroy the biosphere?) and to try to do something about it. I learned a great deal about the Western mindset and its evolution, and I must recognize the good work done over the years by some of my fellow philosophers who are trying to enlarge our worldview and contribute to bringing about a “big-picture” change in our species’ trajectory–but when I look back over my time in academia I am impressed both by how little I have actually accomplished on a personal basis and how little academia itself has done to address, and make a difference to, the urgent issues of the day. The awarding of tenure was supposed to signal that a professor was free to “seek the truth” and develop a position, even a controversial one, with respect to whatever aspect of that “truth” he or she was pursuing (perhaps one more reason why it’s so little awarded today). What I found, however, was that, for many people, what they were doing was “just a job,” and there was a great reluctance to “rock the boat” or even slightly deviate from accepted norms of belief in any field, tenure or not. Many subjects were silently accepted as off limits, walled off by unspoken taboos, and this self-censorship seemed to become greatly accelerated after the occurrence of 9/11/01, with many of my colleagues tiptoeing around important topics in what could only be perceived by me as an attitude of fear and cowardice, though fear of exactly what was difficult to determine.
    Yes, the “job market” is very tight for PhDs. But what about the whole economic scheme itself? What is its function supposed to be, how is it functioning now, and what will you be accomplishing if you simply become part of it without examining it as a socially constructed object that can be (and obviously needs to be) changed? Where is humanity headed, as it mindlessly pursues the abstraction of “economic growth” at the expense of the real, living world that actually supports our lives? Is it comforting to flee from the responsibility to do something by getting lost in word games or constructing a verbal barrier against acknowledging the truth about our human situation under the heading of “antirealism” or some such armchair fantasy? When I found that a long, loud silence was all that would be forthcoming from the vast majority of moral philosophers even after it became clear that the United States was engaging in torture and openly attempting to defend it, that was the beginning of the end for me, although I continued teaching for another few years. I am admittedly more fortunate than recent PhDs in having the opportunity to retire with a modest pension, and I continue to write articles, referee, etc. I cannot help but feel, even now, that if a large percentage of academicians–whatever their level in the hierarchy, or outside of it–would integrate what they “know” and find the courage to stand up for it, we could make a difference in what really happens in the world. As it is, however, since “it’s just a job” and everyone expects, accepts–and some even hope?–that what philosophers say will simply be irrelevant to the way we live our lives, I don’t think I could recommend to anyone that they seek a PhD or, following that, an academic position in philosophy. Whatever is the point?

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  15. Kevin De Laplante Avatar

    Looking forward to the rest of this series too.
    I’m a tenured philosopher at Iowa State, former department chair, and I’ll be leaving academia next summer (I’m 47). I’ve been planning this for about five years. Told our department about the plans in 2011. Everyone (including our Dean) has been very supportive. I’m moving into consulting and training in critical thinking (www.criticalthinkeracademy.com).
    My two main motivations were (1) a strong desire for freedom of location, for the sake of my entire family, and (2) a long-standing desire to work on applied problem solving with the general public. We’ll be moving back to our home town next summer, to be with our extended families.
    My sense, talking with my colleagues, is that a sizable minority would consider moving on to something else in the second half of their careers if they thought it was practically feasible for them, but almost all none think it is.

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  16. Derek Bowman Avatar

    Do you think your experience will show your colleagues that they’re wrong, and that these alternatives are generally feasible? Or do you think it’s something that was feasible for because of specific features of your circumstances, or that you’re filling a particular niche that cannot be widely pursued?

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  17. Jordan Lindberg Avatar

    Thinking about Kevin’s comment above, it might be worth sharing a bit of my story. I’m a former academic philosopher. I earned by Ph.D. from the University of Missouri-Columbia in 1997, and was at Central Michigan University for years before leaving, which was the result of growing dissatisfaction with academia, along with a few other things. In the years since I’ve pursued an entrepreneurial path that has led to me to create two successful web-based companies, I’m a columnist for a major publication in the area of online retail, I’m an equity partner in a medium-sized corporation, and I do lots of other things professionally that are rewarding both financially and in terms of intellectual stimulation. My days are never the same and they are never boring.
    I did love graduate school in philosophy, and much of my teaching career was wonderful, though I found several years after leaving that there were distinct advantages outside of the university, too. To take a non-trivial example, I make a great deal of money. I live where I want. I travel when I want, which is often, and enjoy working when I want, too. I focus on creative projects that I select and, as owner of my own companies, have a talented staff that assists me in carrying-out those projects. I’ve been able to get more deeply involved in my community, to engage with other leaders on meaningful projects, etc. I avoid getting my time wasted in stupid and pointless meetings, too.
    I did have one advantage which was that I grew up in a business family (the sort that talks about money and business at the breakfast table) and I myself worked since I was 15 in lots of different business situations, plus I have always been a bit of technology geek. If you’re new to business outside of the academy, however, you can give yourself a great business education by reading about five well-known business books and taking an undergraduate course from a community college in basic accounting along with a course in Excel. Business degrees themselves are overrated and filled with useless nonsense (along with some great practical stuff — like basic accounting, basic finance, real estate, and business computing) . But you can focus on the great practical stuff fairly easily.

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  18. Kevin De Laplante Avatar

    For more senior colleagues, “not practically feasible” might mean “I’m trying to put two kids through college, and I need a steady paycheck at least until that period is over”, or “I can’t imagine starting over in a new field with less job security than I have now”. It’s a combination of situational factors, a priority on financial stability and security, and still enjoying the job enough to put up with everything else.
    For younger tenure track colleagues, almost all of them are self-selected to be professionally and personally committed to their academic careers and they strongly identify as academics. For most of them, abandoning this to do something else isn’t in their headspace (at least not yet).
    But all of them recognize that they have valuable, transferable skills, so they readily accept that it’s possible to leave and find work outside of academia (that potentially pays much more).
    The harder part is imagining work outside of academia that would be as fulfilling of their intellectual interests as the academic research and teaching that they’ve been pursuing for most of their adult lives. Those are the harder possibilities to imagine (especially for academics in the humanities), and I think this is where the real barrier lies. If you associate leaving academia with abandoning something that you view as central to your identity, it’s going to be hard to make that leap.
    For me, I spent a lot of time trying to imagine possibilities where I could continue to think and write and learn about philosophical topics. And this required thinking more entrepreneurially, and how my philosophical background and interests could translate into something that helps to solve someone else’s real-world problems (because only then will someone pay you to do it).
    I focused on critical thinking training and consulting because I had a strong interest, relevant background and I could see niche opportunities outside of academia. But I think that any academic field can be a source for niche opportunities outside of academia. But you won’t see them unless you start thinking along those lines.

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  19. Kevin De Laplante Avatar

    I agree with Jordan that an entrepreneurial mindset and an interest in technology, when combined with the sort of disciplinary training that academics have, is a potent combination.

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  20. Noel Boulting Avatar
    Noel Boulting

    Anyone taking a Ph.D. is faced with prospect of arguing about what the literature says about some issue, rather than face up to the question ‘What is it that I think’, ‘Saying What They Believe’ as Socrates put it. Academic philosophy pursues a false conception of what philosophy is in that it is a contestable concept! This is obscured from its students by the analytic tradition. So, for example, the term ‘Continental Philosophy’ is a reification.(1) Critical Theory, Existentialism and Phenomenology have little in common save for the fact that they are not simply analytic, not to speak of Process Philosophy or Scientific Philosophy. It is because analytic philosophy dominates and unlike the other philosophic movements has nothing to say about humanity’s present condition that is dying out. Some might say and a good thing too. “Noboss”, my own 35 year old society seeks to keep philosophy alive whilst sustaining analysis in its appropriate context. (1) “On Interpretative Activity” Leiden: Brill 2006 Ch. 6

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  21. Jordan Lindberg Avatar

    No time in the history of the world has been more exciting for entrepreneurs than right now. I’m serious. This is particularly true for people who take an international orientation to business, as emerging opportunities for collaborative retail and wholesale partnerships in Europe, India, China, Mexico, Brazil, etc. are opening up windows in US ecommerce and traditional commerce in a way that was impossible to foresee even 10 years ago. And I’m not even talking about technology itself, which is evolving at a staggeringly fast pace at this point.
    If you’re very smart, a quick study, understand human nature, tech savvy, can see opportunity when it is standing in front of you, have a research orientation, good basic business analytical skills, and have a knack for deal-making, you can earn a nice living off the global economy, and the problems to be addressed in earning that living are at least as interesting and complex as any purely philosophical puzzle you’ve ever encountered. Plus having an interest in one set of problems doesn’t preclude having an interest in the other.
    The sorts of skills that it takes to earn a Ph.D. (and personal characteristics including the I-don’t-give-a-damn-what-you-think mentality plus the pure willingness to grind it out on hard intellectual problems) gets rewarded in the private sector, and even more when you’re your own boss. And the scope of those rewards in terms of cash and lifestyle are HUGE compared with university life, in many ways … it’s worth taking seriously.
    I read about recent Ph.D.’s in philosophy with great skill sets applying to 100 jobs to get interviewed at two places that, frankly, both suck, then they take some lousy offer for not much money and a heavy load … it’s depressing. And, when you consider their real options, it’s a bad set of choices. Among other things, that’s a failure to think creatively about the scope of real opportunities and a willingness to see one’s self in the narrowest terms and for no legitimate reason.

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  22. Nicole Wyatt Avatar
    Nicole Wyatt

    About the Mike Steiner reference; Mike is one of our graduates, and he wrote a piece reflecting on his own non-academic job search to share with our current students. It isn’t posted anywhere but I expect it is being passed around by email outside UofC. I’ll get in touch with him and see if he is willing to share with a larger audience.

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    Nicole Wyatt

    And a very quick follow up: here’s Mike Steiner’s piece: What to do with your PhD in Philosophy — Outside of Academia
    http://phil.ucalgary.ca/sites/phil.ucalgary.ca/files/What%20to%20do%20with%20your%20PhD%20in%20Philosophy.pdf

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  24. John Mareing Avatar
    John Mareing

    A very good article. I can relate. I graduated with a BA in Philosophy in 1970. I enrolled in the graduate program, but was drafted into the military. After my military experience I realized that jobs teaching Philosophy were scarce. So instead I went into a three year program and received a Masters in Landscape Architecture which included all the undergraduate core courses related to that profession. My background in Logic, Aesthetics, and Ethics were useful and guiding in this study. I’ve often thought that it was the diversity of thought and ideas that one is expose to in Philosophy that helped me transition into and survive in this profession. I’m semi-retired now, and looking back on my career I’m glad it happened the way it did.

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  25. Jessi Deng Avatar
    Jessi Deng

    it’s a bit surprising to me that I didn’t see any JD up there! As Joseph Raz once said, legal theory is equally challenging as philosophy.

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