Discussions of European identity, and the history mostly revolve round two points of reference. One goes back to the origin of modern usage of Europe and European in the eight century around the struggle between Christian Franks and Muslim Moors, and then round the Frankish king Charlemagne who received the title of Emperor of the Romans, an event which questions the claim of the eastern and Greek Roman Empire, Byzantium, to continue the legacy of Rome there is an obvious religious focus here, which is Catholic Roman Christians as against Orthodox Greek Christians, and a Christian struggle against Islam. In Charlemagne's reign the struggle to Christianise pagans is still very much an issue in northern Europe. So this is the Europe which is Catholic Christian, Frankish, and western Roman.

The other point of reference, one thousand years later, is the Enlightenment, so an origin in cosmopolitanism, rationalism, ethical universalism, secularism, and science is suggested. The Enlightenment does have a historical and geographical location in Europe, and particular concentrations within Europe. The most important focus for the cosmopolitan rationalist understanding of Europe is Königsberg, though purely Königsberg as the city of Kant. Kant is generally understood through his links to the west, to Scottish Enlightenment, the Enlightened despotism of Frederick the Great in Berlin, the Swiss-French Rousseau, and so on. Frederick II, King of Prussia was ruing over Kant's location in East Prussia, but from Brandenburg and within the boundaries of the new Rome (in practice the German Empire) of Charlemagne.

This Enlightened Kantian Europe is however largely anti-Catholic in that most of the major thinkers are at least anti-clerical in a way which applies more to the Catholic church than Protestantism, and as with Hume when sceptical aboıt religion as such direct their scepticism most on the Romish faith. Vico provides an interesting exception amongst great Enlightenment thinkers, but anyway, the Enlightened Europe identity at some level, explicitly or implicitly, rests on the Protestant break with Rome, and various ways of breaking with a Catholic Medieval past, often treated in a very reductive way, but with deep philosophical roots, as in th refran of abuse of 'Scholasticism' from Descartes and Bacon to the Enlightenment. This is a European identity which is northern, Protestant, anti-clerical, and anti-Catholic. Even in France Enlightenment thinkers may associate liberty with ancient Germans more than southern republics, as we see in Montesquieu. 

The prime proponent of the first European idenity is the French medievalist and historian Jacques Le Goff, while the prime proponent of the second European identity is the German philosopher Jürgen Habermas.  There is no absolute divide between these two views, and of course we can take the idea of Europe back to the Greek origins of the word, along with the antique Greek and Roman republics, which have been such a constant source of reference even for an apparent enthusiast of the Gothic like Montesquieu. Max Weber marks one link between Enlightened German Protestant Europe and Habermas, while Alexis de Tocqueville marks one link between Frankish Catholic Roman Europe and Le Goff. Of course many other links can be found and many complications, but the overall picture is familiar and still with us in widely accepted distinctions between parts of Europe.

These assumptions about what Europe is ought to be are not to be dismissed, they both build on a reality, and both express ideas which have some merits. There's nothing wrong at all with being conscious of the eight and arly ninth century gestation of modern Europe, and nothing wrong with cosmopolitan impulses. However, we can surely expand on these ways of thinking. The lines of expansion can be seen in ways of trying to define Europe in an open way. When I say Europe defined in an open way, I don't mean that Europe has no boundaries and that questions of identity should be left aside as chauvinistic. There are some good intentions in such attitudes, but Europe had some boundaries and some character, even if the identity involved is a single essence permeating everything.

It's good have an open Europe, open in at least three ways. 1. Open to immigrants, refugees and newcomers. 2 Open to change, self-criticism, and reform. 3 Open to those parts it has tended to exclude though they are part of Europe in very obvious way. Geographically 3 largely refers to Russia and Turkey. Turkey came out of the Ottoman Empire, which was a takeover of Byzantium, and no one wants to deny that Byzantium was European, though often the bad Europe in some way. Rus, then Russia and Ukraine emerged under the heavy influence of vikings and Byzantium, and was always influenced by western and central European incomers, even when as under Ivan the Terrible, it may have seemed like some remote despotism on the edge of civilisation, though that is as much the retrospective the Enlightenment attitude as the contemporary attitude Even in the eighteenth century, Vico and Montesquieu were slow to catch onto the existence of a Europe engaged Russian Empire that had emerged from Muscovy.

The full acceptance of Russia into Europe seemed closer in the time of Gorbachev and the beginning of Yeltsin's presidency than now. Turkey seemed closer to integration at the time just before and just after AKP and Erdoğan came to power, and everyone in Turkey apart from the most hardcore nationalists thought it necessary to seem very European Union oriented. Putinism and Erdoğan's rule once he was secure in power have pushed all that back and even led to an upturn in ways of thinking according to which Russia and Turkey are innately 'oriental' despotisms, while Orthodox Christianity and Islam are outside 'Europe'. The economic crisis in Greece and the continuing lack of  honest and efficient government in Romania and Bulgaria have contributed to that. At another level the impact of the Euro crisis in southern and Catholic Europe has also reinforced a northern Protestant Enlightenment European identity. The break oıt of radical anti-EU and anti-immigrant politics in Britain feeds into a Catholic Roman southern way of understanding Europe.

Leaving aside a dwindling number of rigid cultural conservatives, no one seriously denies that Orthodox Christianity, Russia, Islam, and Turkey (including its predecessor states) have been part of European history The exclusionary ways of thinking from 800 and 1800 themselves acknowledged their presence in Europe. There is still a political, intellectual, and cultural task of acknowledging a Europe of Islam and Orthodox Christianity, Muscovy-Russia and Istanbul-Turkey. The references for that understanding can include Averroes and Frederick Barbarossa, Justinian and Dostoevsky. 

 

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8 responses to “European Identities and Histories”

  1. plo Avatar
    plo

    I am not sure where this is heading but it seems to be a bit strained wherever it is going insofar as it seems to privilege the western rather than the eastern narrative of what Europe is or should be or could be, or what have you. For example, you seem to think that Europe (i.e., Western Europe?) tended to exclude some of it [whole Europe’s?) parts – like Russia and Turkey. But one can put the matter the other way round too – Europe (i.e., Eastern Europe) tended to exclude some its parts (more than NATO excluding the Warsaw pact – it was the other way round – the wall was built to exclude the West). But let’s put this aside – how about for once recalling that there are other Europeans than Brits, Germans, Italians, Spaniards, Benelux and Scandinavian people? How about Armenia and Georgia? Albania, Romania, all the Slavic states and people(Czech R., Slovakia, Poland, Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Croatia, Moldava, Belarus, Sorbs, Ruthenians), all the Baltic States? How about not just Ukrainians and Russians, but Tatars, Romanis, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Komi, etc.? Some of those are catholic, some protestant, some orthodox, some muslim and most of them, if not all, never thought of themselves as of something else than Europe. In other words, there are proponents of European identity from the other side too. I mean – it’s all nice, but it feels like writing from just one side as if we were somehow the other Europeans who might or might not be thought to belong to Europe (i.e., Western Europe?).

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  2. Barry Stocker Avatar

    Dear Plo, indeed you are not sure where I am going with this post. You have completely misunderstood it and given it the opposite meaning to that intended and which I think is reasonably clear if you read the whole thing through with moderate care, in which case you will see that I am questioning the dominant narratives outlined at the beginning . I certainly agree that all the peoples you mention are part of Europe and questions of European identity, but of course I can’t mention very national group at once.

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  3. plo Avatar
    plo

    I realize that that is where you have been going, kind of, with it and that the intention is as you describe it. But already your two points of reference are a bit on the western side of things, in fact, entirely there. It’s history viewed from that side that registers Charlemagne as so highly significant. Or do you mean to say that they are not supposed to be the point of reference?

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  4. Barry Stocker Avatar

    I fear I am merely repeating myself again. Let me try to be as absolutely clear and simple as I can. 1. The two narratives of what Europe is outlined at the beginning are put forward in order to criticise them. 2 The idea of ‘Europe’ and ‘Europeans’, that is the words, not the reality of Europe as a whole in its many peoples, cultures etc, were developed around Charlemagne and the Battle of Tours. Stating this is stating facts about the development of concepts, it is not a justification of only looking at Europe as Carolingian Europe. 3 The post rather clearly states that other parts of Europe should be given more attention, I mention the Ottomans/Turks, Moors, Muslims in general, Greeks, Russians Orthodox Christians in general.

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  5. plo Avatar
    plo

    Barry – I am sorry. i think I am not expressing myself clearly, and maybe if I do, it turns out I have nothing to say. You are writing from a perspective of a Western European – arguing that we should pay more attention to others. That is great, of course, but it is funny when read by some of the others. I am one of the others, and it seems to me odd to say that I should pay more attention to where I come from. Also, the idea of ‘Europe’ you are talking about that came to be around Charlemagne and such – well, it is just one idea of Europe – perhaps dominant in the West, but again, there are, for other parts of Europe, more defining historical moments that defined their idea of Europe. So – I do not disagree with you – I guess I just wanted to point out that there are already other narratives present – even if not much knonwn in the Western parts (I guess language is the problem – we learn Western European languages way more than the other way round and so the access to documents and histories is different).

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  6. Patrick S. O'Donnell Avatar

    “There is still a political, intellectual, and cultural task of acknowledging a Europe of Islam and Orthodox Christianity, Muscovy-Russia and Istanbul-Turkey.” Hear, Hear! Thank you.

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  7. Barry Stocker Avatar

    Well I live in Istanbul, so I guess I don’t think of myself sitting in the ‘west’ looking in a puzzled way at all the ‘others’ somewhere ‘east’ and ‘south’, trying to work out how they belong. It is I must emphasise a fact in the evolution of language and concepts that ‘Europe’ and ‘Europeans’ got going in the 8th century in the west round the events I mention. So while it is important to understand that Europe is more than the Carolingian ‘west’, it is also important to acknowledge when talking about European identity and its history that it has a starting point in the 8th century, itself drawing on an earlier history of the use of the word Europe and various forms of distinction. My perspective in Istanbul, is that he Ottoman-Turkish attitude has itself been to move from finding ‘Europe’ or originally ‘Rum/Rome’ and Franks rather backward, other, and dangerous to finding itself in a weaker position where it more or less accepts the centrality of ‘Carolingian’ or related understandings of Europe, tending to respond with aggressive rejection or anxiety to be accepted (the two attitudes can also overlap). As much as anything, I am challenging a Turkish tendency to accept a kind of ‘otherness’ in these ways. You seem to be speaking from a more Balkan/Russian/Caucasian perspective and I can’t say too much about this, though I do get the impressions that Greeks, Russians and others have gone through similar attitudes and they still structure reactions to some degree. My analysis that the ‘west’ should not assume it is the centre, should acknowledge for example the importance of Averroes, a Muslim from Cordoba in the origins of Scholastic philosopher, and the ‘east’ should not define itself through a resentment and anxieties about exclusion, so it should see that it also made Europe through the creations of Byzantine, Ottoman, Moorish, Russian Orthodox states and cultural traditions which have shaped Europe as much as the Carolingian ‘centre’. As I was trying to suggest in the post, the award by the Pope of the title of Emperor of the Romans to Charlemagne was a calculated attempt to exclude Byzantium/Eastern Rome from the centre of Europe/Christendom and I certainly think we should resist that as we should resist the way Europe was defined in the 8th century to exclude Moorish Iberia.

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  8. Nick the Greek Avatar
    Nick the Greek

    The concept of a Europe is Greek Idea. Evropi for early Greeks, was imagined like land mass between two clearly defined rivers. Between westernmost river, and the easternmost river. Between river Ebro in the West, to the river Evros, in the East.
    There were only two European Identities back then…(i) Greek, and, (ii) Barbarian.
    Today, the concept of a Europe, with inhabitants there defining themselves with clearly defined, all in one, [European] supranational Identity is futuristic political ambition of European Union.
    Western European mind-architects perception of common European Identity, attempt to trace the casting of that Identity back to Karalos Magnos, Charlamagne, Charles the Great. The same mind-architects attempt to script Europe a history and heritage beginning at 8th Century AD, completely disregarding classicist Greek, and Greco-Roman contibutions to development of early European Identity. Clearly, Germanic perceptions of European Identity differ from the quintessential Greek and Greco-Roman ones. Celtic and Slavic perceptions probably differ still.
    European history and European Identity cannot be viewed through prism of filters that exclude Greek and Greco-Roman contributions towards their development.

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