By: Leigh M. Johnson

If you haven't already, you should read yesterday's Stone article in the NYT by Justin McBrayer entitled "Why Our Children Don't Believe There Are Moral Facts." There, McBrayer bemoans the ubiquity of a certain configuration of the difference between "fact" and "opinion" assumed in most pre-college educational instruction (and, not insignificantly, endorsed by the Common Core curriculum). The basic presumption is that all value claims– those that involve judgments of good and bad, right and wrong, better and worse– are by definition "opinions" because they refer to what one "believes," in contradistinction to "facts," which are provable or disprovable, i.e., True or False.  The consequence of this sort of instruction, McBrayer argues, is that our students come to us (post-secondary educators) not believing in moral facts, predisposed to reject moral realism out of hand. Though I may not be as quick to embrace the hard version of moral realism that McBrayer seems to advocate, I am deeply sympathetic with his concern.  In my experience, students tend to be (what I have dubbed elsewhere on my own blog) "lazy relativists." It isn't the case, I find, that students do not believe their moral judgments are true–far from it, in fact– but rather that they've been trained to concede that the truth of value judgments, qua "beliefs," is not demonstrable or provable.  What is worse, in my view, they've also been socially- and institutionally-conditioned to think that even attempting to demonstrate/prove/argue that their moral judgments are True– and, correspondingly, that the opposite of their judgments are False– is trés gauche at best and, at worst, unforgivably impolitic.



For what it's worth, several years ago (in 2009), Joshua Miller (aka, Anotherpanacea) and I had an extended cross-blog discussion/debate about what I call "lazy relativism." (You can read the entirety of it here, but you'll have to scroll down to the bottom and follow all the embedded links in order to read it in chronological order.)  To save you the time it will take to read through that debate, I will sum up my own position thusly: I think there are philosophically defensible versions of moral relativism, but "lazy relativism" is not one of those.

What I wish I had at my disposal back in 2009 was something like the argument that Ammon Allred (aka, Ideas Man, PhD.) recently made on his blog ("In Lovely Blueness: Protagorus' Revenge")  in reference to #TheDress controversy. (If you don't know what #TheDress controversy is, you really must click on this link. Otherwise, what follows will make no sense at all.)  Allred speculates that what is most interesting about the almost-comedically vigorous Facebook and Twitter et-Internet-al debates that ensued in re how we perceived the "True" colors of #TheDress is, at least in part, the manner in which our arguments about the "facts" of #TheDress revealed our deep-seated (and largely disavowed) realist and normative prejudices.  Even despite the fact that we all should have implicitly conceded that what we were really arguing about was the Truth of our "perceptions" of the colors in the image of #TheDress, we were nevertheless, on the whole, dispositionally inclined to refuse that concession.  However we "took it to be the case," we failed to recognize that the imagistic reproduction of #TheDress about which we were arguing was not really or truly #whiteandgold or #blueandblack in the same way that the actual dress was really and truly one or the other.  We ought to have been, but we were not, arguing about the reality or Truth of our perception of an image, a photograph, not the reality or Truth of #TheDress itself.

And there's the rub, according to Allred,  A photograph– etymologically derived, from φωτός (genitive, "of light") and γράφω ("I write")– is a particularly revealing type of image in this case, one that inclines us to double-down on our universalistic and normative presumptions with regard to our perceptions of the so-called Truth of so-called Reality.  That is to say, an "image-written-from-light" is the sort of image (unlike, as Allred notes, a painting or a poem) that inclines us to trust its re-presentation as more faithfully representative than other sorts of images. But this is exactly the wrong sort of intuitive inclination. From Allred:

If it turns out that the image really can be blue and black AND white and gold, and that we can understand what the other person means when they say it's white and gold (because c'mon you guys, it's obviously blue and black), it's because we're willing to suspend some of the universalistic and normative properties of our ordinary language when we're talking about images. We're even willing to grant that there might be room for aesthetic education here. (I can learn more about an image by trying to experience how others see it. I can appreciate food and music that I didn't before if I learn about what the properties in it are that other people are experiencing)… It's too bad we can't take this point about aesthetic education further, because frankly I think this particularistic, anti-normative sort of experiencing is of far more importance to how we can live happily together than any normative ethics.

Not that it matters in this case, but I saw the image of #TheDress as white and gold.  Unlike many others, I have been unable to see it otherwise, though I am sufficiently convinced that this is not some elaborately-complex joke being played upon me alone.  I concede that others are as sure that their perceptions of the colors of the image of  #TheDress are black and blue as I am sure that my perceptions are that it is white and gold. I've read all of the explanatory accounts of this disagreement; I still see the colors as white and gold. I also am willing to concede that the "real" dress is, in FACT, contrary to my perceptions, black and blue. Allred calls his position "revolutionary fictionalism," in which we might stipulate it to be the case that any discourse D is only engaged via "pretend-assertions," which conditionally stipulate the Truth- or Reality-claims posited by D, but at the same time considers all subsequent truth/reality/value judgments implied by D as something akin to aesthetic judgments, For Allred, revolutionary fictionalism's merit is that it "bends philosophy away from its normative biases."  And, for what it's worth, I agree with Allred in this regard: if we were to take moral/political value judgments to be of a kind with aesthetic judgments, then philosophy may very well be relieved of its normative biases tout court.

But then aren't we back to McBrayer's problem articulated above?  Are we left with nothing but lazy relativism?

I do not mean to suggest an equation of Allred's revolutionary fictionalism with what I have called "lazy relativism," for the following reason, with which I think (hope!) Allred will be sympathetic: the very activity of discursively working-through the distinction between (what the Common Core calls) "fact and opinion," or the distinction that professional philosophy more or less regularly determines between aesthetic judgments and"value" (i,e,, ethical/political) judgments, can only legitimately be engaged within the frame of an at-least-conditionally stipulated revolutionary fictionalism.  I suspect that some, like myself, will exit that frame at a certain point and want to claim that the "pretend-assertions" granted as such for the sake of discourse are not, in fact, fictional.  But I am inclined to agree with Allred that, without at least entertaining the possibility that some facts are indistinguishable from opinion outside of an agreed-upon frame of reference– that is to say, outside of a common "light" in which our images (if not also imaginations) of Truth are written and represented– forces us into a position of universalistic/normative dogmatism or, worse, lazy relativism.

 

[Cross-posted from ReadMoreWriteMoreThinkMoreBeMore.]

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10 responses to “Relativisim, Revolutionary Fictionalism, Moral Facts and #TheDress”

  1. Robert Gressis Avatar
    Robert Gressis

    Do you think there’s any connection between students’ moral relativism and bad (or good) behaviors?

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  2. Leigh M. Johnson Avatar

    I suspect there is some connection, but I don’t know to what extent that connection amounts to a more (or less) causal explanation for students’ good/bad behaviors. Not trying to punt on that question, just disinclined to establish a direct causal link between beliefs and behaviors.

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  3. Paul K. Eckstein Avatar
    Paul K. Eckstein

    Thanks for this interesting post. The issue of ‘lazy relativism’ comes up every time I teach a course in ethics AND every time I teach a course in basic logic. It comes up in basic logic, of course, with respect to the law of bivalence. Thus, I tell my students that there are no ‘mere’ matters of opinion; if you are stating that something is your opinion then, as long as you are not lying or self-deceived, you are saying something true, because it your opinion. Whether our opinions are true or false is another matter; sometimes we just don’t know; in any case, finding out is a matter of argument and evidence and justification. They seem to see this rather quickly, and ‘resolving’ their lazy relativism doesn’t seem to be a problem.
    The ethics case is more difficult, because the lazy relativism is here more well-motivated. As you yourself point out, it isn’t really that they don’t believe that they make value judgments, or that their value judgements are ‘true’. What they believe is that one cannot provide evidence or justification that supports one judgment over another. Let me suggest a hypothesis: They say they believe this because they don’t know how to argue for their own beliefs and therefore it’s safer to avoid being put on the spot by coming into conflict with alternative judgments. They’re really quite afraid to use their own powers of discernment in these matters, and this is a function of the way we run our educational establishment. We train our students to play it safe, and then wonder why they won’t take intellectual risks.
    I’d bet that this doesn’t go for students at ‘top tier’ schools, some of whom, by virtue of their awareness of their own status, feel safe enough to engage in real moral discourse.
    We train our students to play it safe in so many ways–through increased emphasis on ‘outcomes assessment’, on the so-called ‘economic’ function of education, and on GPA statistics and other forms of grading. Many students are treading water in rough surf; asking them to dive deep is to ask them to risk drowning (and doing so for what might seem like a really intangible reward).
    In a way, the problem therefore is lazy relativism–our students aren’t lazy; they’re intimidated. And teachers are often part of the problem rather than the solution–the custodians of education fail to keep the politicians and the administrators and the corporate executives away from the process. After all, if we really taught our students to take their own judgments seriously, we’d have to face up to the reality of what judgments they would make about how we are educating them. It isn’t moral relativism that is the problem; it’s moral cowardice.

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  4. Paul K. Eckstein Avatar
    Paul K. Eckstein

    Sorry, the sentence should have read “the problem <isn’t> lazy relativism…”

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  5. Christy Mag Uidhir Avatar
    Christy Mag Uidhir

    A minor point: you and Allred seem to be conflating “aesthetic judgments” with “judgements of taste”. At least as understood within the contemporary literature, only the latter stands at the appropriate remove from the moral/political to motivate the point (in fact, looking to the aesthetic to rid philosophy of its pesky normativity problem may well be akin to treating a feral cat infestation by sending in far bigger, more virile, and decidedly more feral cats).

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  6. Tasilo Von Heydebrandt und der Lasa Avatar

    Like a lot of other people, and as a professor, I was concerned about McBrayer’s observation that children are being taught to discount moral facticity. But, as again like a lot of folks, I am dismayed by the weak arguments offered to buttress this idea. It is one thing to say that moral relativism is unworkable; it is another to say that this proposition necessarily entails that there are moral facts of a substantiality equivalent to matter, energy and the other properties of external reality. Humans both recognize what acts and beliefs serve them, and the general form that such beliefs may take. Moral “facts” such as these are more like generalities, but they are valid, if they are not “real” in the sense of external reality. Consider, for example, the Golden Ratio. For not reasons that are not completely understood, many people find that employment of the Golden Ratio in the architecture of buildings produces structures that are pleasing to observers. A number of theories have been proffered about why this is so, but what is important is that while the Golden Ratio has been precisely calculated (and is thus reliably knowable in this sense), buildings built with it are not ineluctably beautiful, nor are those without it irretrievably ugly. It is one of a possibly unlimited number of factors or qualities that are “good,” and contribute to the overall aesthetic good. Morality, although unlike aesthetics in some ways, is similar to it in that both describe qualities of generality of real objects (in the case of morality, the words and actions of people) that are never precisely delimitable, inarguably one thing and yet about which there is wide assent. Unlike aesthetics, however, moral “facts” are or should be stable. The Beatles might go in and out of style, but killing another person without adequate justification is not similarly the product of fad (or shouldn’t be). In a sense, there is less at stake in aesthetic arguments; it is rarely a matter of life and death which painting by Rembrandt is the most beautiful. However, lacking a moral compass CAN be a matter of life and death. If people view it merely as a bandwagon view, or the view of elites, or just a view that makes one popular, then amorality is the eventual result. We must never confuse quantification with ascertainment.

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  7. Ammon Allred Avatar
    Ammon Allred

    @Leigh Johnson: (repeating what I’ve said over at readmorewritemorehthinkmorebemore: A quick response and a promise for a longer one when I have more time. First, thanks for your really thoughtful response to what I wrote. I feel so lucky to have friends and colleagues like you who can sometimes force me to see my own position more clearly than I did on my own.
    Second, I agree with you that in fact a hard dogmatism about the universality of our judgements is oddly enough closely related to lazy relativism (this is the Hegelian in me, I suspect.). Finally (for now), I’d also read the Stone piece you linked to, and my problem there was that I don’t think the alternative is between accepting lazy relativism or moral facts. I take it you don’t either. Where I suspect you and I disagree is exactly what we’re willing to cede to both positions in carving out a middle ground.
    One other addition to what I wrote there: As I reread what you wrote,I think that I might be willing to endorse the claim that there wouldn’t be any ethics outside of a particular fictional framework. But I also don’t think that the point of fictionalism (even in its revolutionary configuration) is to stop us from holding to certain frameworks (incidentally, this is where I think our long-standing discussion about the continued value of the liberal project may be relevant). That would be nihilism in the bad sense and the tradition in which I’m couching my discussion here is trying to show that there are alternatives between Platonism and nihilism. Maybe I’ll start calling my view therapeutic fictionalism…
    @Paul K. Eckstein: Interesting, and I’m sympathetic to your couching our students’ behavior here in terms of their material conditions. Once or twice when my students have refused to take any moral ground, I’ve come at them with “So do you guys really think you can’t defend your moral view or do you think you’re just supposed to say that in a classroom context?” And they’ve sheepishly admitted the latter. Of course, that might also be a “please the teacher” move. As to the claim about elite schools — This distinction doesn’t seem to be relevant in my experience or in the experience of colleagues I’ve taught with. Even back when I was adjuncting at an Ivy League school, my students were pretty much all lazy relativists.
    @Christy Mag Uidhir: the short response is: fair enough, and in a longer version of this claim I hope to work out why I use the term “aesthetic judgement” even though the overlapping but distinct category of “judgement of taste” might seem prima facie more appropriate. Taking the distinction between these terms just in their Kantian sense (and I think that that remains the most relevant to contemporary usages also, but perhaps I’m wrong there), I’ll certainly grant that Kant will claim he’s shown that there is a peculiar kind of normativity in aesthetic judgements that there aren’t in judgements of taste, but I think that his argument depends so heavily on his theory of the subject that if you take that theory of the subject to be contingent then you could just as easily end up with an account for how aesthetic judgements delimit the sphere where normative judgements are appropriate. But again, that’s a much longer discussion (TL/DR: I’m not trying to advocate a full “remove from the moral/political” so much as just from metaethics.)
    @Tasilo Von Heydebrand und der Lasa: I’m broadly sympathetic to what you’re saying, and I didn’t mean to claim anything more than that there is something about what we’re willing to grant in aesthetic judgements that we also ought to grant in moral judgements — as I reread what I wrote, I’m pretty sure this is what I’m claiming but I’ll try to clarify in the future. This does mean, however, that I’m not willing to concede that moral “facts” should be stable… Even in the example that you give here, I’d argue that the rub is the phrase “without adequate justification…”

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  8. Paul K. Eckstein Avatar
    Paul K. Eckstein

    Ammon,
    Thanks for the info re: elite and Ivy League schools. Perhaps the psychology is different. There, the ‘lazy relativism’ may not be motivated by fear but by indifference. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part; it would be interesting to see if there is any data on this issue.

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  9. Robert Gressis Avatar
    Robert Gressis

    For what it’s worth, Dustin Locke pointed me to this article that sees some connection between believing in moral realism and behaving better: http://www.bc.edu/offices/pubaf/news/2013-jan-feb/bc-study-shows-moral-realism-may-lead-to-better-behavior.html

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  10. Daniel Brunson Avatar
    Daniel Brunson

    As another bit of anecdata, my experience teaching at both a PWI and an HBCU (state schools) has been similar – lazy relativism as a form of ‘bygone-ism’.
    I like to illustrate the point with the trope of “not saying/just saying” – a student makes an assertion, but in the same breath denies their responsibility for the assertion. Thus, by ‘just saying’ they implicitly deny that anyone has a right to be upset about what they pseudo-asserted. And the other students are generally fine with this, as long as they are not held accountable for what they “just say” as well.

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