On the basis of this year’s partial hiring data, Marcus Arvan notes that the majority of tenure track hires (a whopping 88%) are from people of Leiter-ranked programs. Only 12% of hires are from people of unranked programs. Also, 37% of all tenure track hires come from just 5 schools, the Leiter top 5 list – this is amazing if one ponders it, and one may wonder at the direction philosophy is going to, if most of its future tenured workforce comes from just a few select programs.

This has caused a lot of debate: why would people go to grad school in unranked programs at all? Why attend an unranked program if you can’t get into a highly ranked one? But what is often overlooked are the many factors, such as class and ethnic background, may contribute to someone not getting (or, as I will examine in more detail below), even applying to get into top programs. In fact, going for pedigree may be a particularly effective way to screen out people who come from poorer backgrounds and of different ethnicities.


In Britain, black academics are underrepresented. Of the UK’s 18,510 university professors, only 85 are of black origin (Black African/Black Caribbean/Black ‘other’). There are many reasons, one of them being that black applicants are less likely to get hired for academic positions than their white peers.

For instance, at Oxford, 13% of applicants for research/academic positions were black or other ethnic minorities. [update: the way I originally phrased this was less than clear] Of the shortlisted candidates, only 6% were of ethnic minorities, and of those appointed, only  3%. By contrast, 37% of applicants for these positions were white (note the remainder, 51% declined to state their ethnicity). The percentage of  white shortlisted candidates is 46%, and 44% of appointments were white. So black and other ethnic minorities are substantially less likely to get to the shortlisting stage, and their odds of getting the job (compared to whites) drop even further when they are at the interview stage.

 Gulzaar Barn writes

Perhaps another factor explaining the lack of black academics is the lack of black students at elite universities. In an increasingly competitive academic job market, one’s pedigree, in the form of university background, is highly important, with qualifications from elite universities serving as Pavlovian indicators of academic capability. And, it seems, black British young people are far less likely to attend the UK’s most selective universities, a factor which may make it harder to get academic jobs. The Independent Commission on Social Mobility pointed out that “there are more young men from black backgrounds in prison in the UK than there are UK-domiciled undergraduate black male students attending Russell Group institutions [research intensive top universities].” Despite black Britons (of Caribbean heritage) making up 1.5% of all domestic students attending UK universities in 2012-13, just 0.5% of domestic students at Russell Group universities are from black Caribbean backgrounds. Analogously, Black African students make up 4.4% of total domestic students, but comprise just 2.1% of students attending Russell Group universities.

The reasons for this are complex, but even taking into account grades, Russell Group applicants from Black and Asian ethnic backgrounds were less likely to get admitted in Russell Group universities. With an unprestigious undergraduate degree, it is hard to get into a prestigious graduate program, which may explain why ethnic minorities aren’t flocking to Oxford, Cambridge and their Ivy League equivalents in America.

So why would people choose to attend unprestigious schools? I can speculate, speaking from personal experience (the first in my family ever to attend university, and coming from a mixed-ethnicity background), getting into a prestigious program is not top of one’s list. One is already excited to get an undergraduate degree at any university (in my case in my home town, commutable from home). Just graduating at all was already a huge accomplishment. The homes of people outside of the upper and middle class are not welcoming or encouraging to academic success. Indeed, parents (and councellors at high school) advocate different things, such as finding a job quickly, or getting married. 

I recently talked to a professor (not in philosophy) who was just promoted to the associate level. She works in a state school in a state in middle America. She comes from a working-class family where the income was 30,000/year, which supported 4 children. Her parents didn’t finish high school. As a straight-A student, she applied for and got offers from very good schools. But the tuition prices and long distances from her family made her ultimately decide to accept an offer from a closer-by and cheaper state school, which allowed her to be closer to her younger siblings, for whom she felt responsible. For the same reason, she attended a local graduate program, which was commutable. She feels lucky to have a good job now, and realizes that her choice of not going for the top may have hurt her chances to get even better positions (and in many close possible worlds, might have meant no decent job at all).

But, as she wisely observed, the obsession with prestige is an obsession of the white upper class, it is a choice offered to the privileged which isn’t open to many others. Even not taking account institutional racism, getting into a top university requires a careful career trajectory, help from middle class parents with middle class values. In an interview, Harvard philosopher Tommie Shelby recounts how getting into a good program was just not a priority in his milieu.

As difficult as it may be to believe, this well-groomed academic almost found himself at risk of not attending college, In the spring of his senior year, Shelby sat in a meeting with his guidance counselor who was understandably curious about his future plans—Shelby had yet to apply to schools. He says that he was simply unaware that he had missed the fall deadlines.

Luckily, his alma mater, Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University—one of a group of Historically Black Colleges and Universities—had a second round of admissions in the spring.

“I went to Florida A&M by chance,” he says. “I’m a first generation college student, so no one in my family had really gone and knew the ropes.”

Shelby’s is a success story, but it is important to illustrate how many social factors can contribute to why someone would not just go for it and attend a top-5 Leiter program. There is a correlation between the prestige (or lack thereof) of one's undergraduate degree and one's graduate program, as Eric Schwitzgebel observes. Eric observes that just 19% of students attending top 10 Leiter-ranked schools come from "non-elite" universities. 

One may wonder then, whether pedigree is really a reliable indicator of quality, rather than of careful coaching and planning during one's high school years, in a milieu that puts a premium on pedigree and recognizes its importance for future success. 

Using pedigree as a “Pavlovian indicator of academic capability”, as Barn puts it, has the side-effect of screening out ethnic minorities and people from non-middle class or upper-class backgrounds in the future generation of philosophers. This is a very unfortunate result, and I think, it is an important reason for hiring committees to reconsider the importance they place on pedigree.

 

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66 responses to “Hiring, academic pedigree, and exclusion: Is going for pedigree racist and classist?”

  1. Susan Avatar
    Susan

    What evidence might further inform this discussion? The top-ranked Ph.D. granting programs in Philosophy tend to have a much smaller percentage of women on their faculty than do lower-ranked programs. This could in turn affect the demographics of their students, including those who then go on to apply for and win tenure-track positions.
    The percentage of women in tenure-track positions remains much lower than the percentage of women in graduate philosophy programs (now over 30%, I believe). Given that turnover is higher among grad students than tenured or tenure track faculty, I assume the rate of hiring women could be much higher than their proportional representation in graduate programs. However, do we know what that rate is?
    We can infer the hiring rate for women must not be relatively high at those top-ranked programs which continue to have a lower proportion of female faculty, or else they’re not able to hold on to their female hires despite their prestige. Yet you would think that top-ranked programs have the resources to attract their choices among any new cohort of job candidates. This raises two questions, among others: 1) what factors are causing them to hire fewer women than other schools? and 2) is it in fact easier for schools further down the rankings to hire female candidates, given that higher-ranked schools aren’t hiring as many of them?
    I don’t know how to measure whether the “narrow” hiring that results in most tenure-track jobs being awarded to graduates of top-ranked programs is harming the philosophy profession in other ways, but if you are willing to grant that a) excellent philosophers exist outside those programs, both among faculty and their grad students, and b) there might be some downside to populating the field mostly with people who studied the same sorts of ideas with the same professors, as opposed to having a wider range of intellectual backgrounds, then the current narrowness of the hiring process could be causing some harm to the profession.
    My personal sense from serving on several hiring committees is that busy faculty reviewers frequently use school of origin as a proxy for reliable quality. Faced with insufficient time to carefully study writing samples, they will populate their short lists with candidates from trusted grad schools rather than roll the dice on candidates from lower-ranked schools or simply schools with which they are less familiar. The subjectivity and unsupported bias I’ve observed in the process is astounding, especially for persons who normally pride themselves on critical thinking.
    Another pernicious aspect of the hiring process I’ve observed is the tendency to include women or minority candidates on short lists so that the full list itself satisfies any university-wide demands for diversity, even though the top candidates who have the only realistic hope of landing the job remain white men. Honestly, I would like to know if this practice occurs at other institutions or if I’ve simply been unlucky in anecdotal experience. I find it hard to imagine that other schools don’t face similar pressures and sometimes respond to them in this way. My experiences have left me with the impression that it is not any easier for women and minority candidates to be hired, and if anything, the opposite, because more of them come from schools that are rejected quickly and those who do make it through to short lists are less likely to make the final cut.

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  2. LK McPherson Avatar
    LK McPherson

    The short-list practice you’ve observed seems common for women who aren’t “underrepresented” minorities. It is not common for such minorities, who rarely (compared to the widespread misimpression that they’re in great demand) get that far in a hiring process. Generally, in philosophy hiring, blacks encounter heightened risk aversion even when they have academic pedigree straight from central casting.

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  3. Charles Pigden Avatar

    E) Returning the charge. You are on the admissions committee for an Oxbridge college. You have two candidates for one place (and remember folks, getting in to Oxbridge a very big deal in the UK, a real life-changer). The two candidates have equal scores on the entrance exam, but one is from Eton and the other from a state school. (This is some time ago. The Oxbridge entrance exam has now been abolished.) You choose the Etonian on the grounds that he has had a better training and is therefore more likely to shine in his finals thus maintaining the college’s illustrious status at the top of the academic rankings. Obviously unfair, yes? An obvious perpetuation of privilege, right? And obviously silly too since the state school candidate has done equally well with a worse education and is therefore likely to be the smarter of the two. 
Now in the current climate, when it comes to permanent hires we have ample and easily accessible evidence of philosophical talent in terms of papers published, multiplied by the prestige of the venues, divided by the time out from the PhD. That’s the equivalent of the entrance exam. Suppose we have two candidates one educated at NYU and the other at Boondock U who both get the same scores on their publications. We pick Sophie from the NYU rather Yolanda from Boondock U on the grounds that Sophie has had a better training and is therefore more likely to shine as a researcher thus maintaining the our department’s Leiterrific status at the top of the academic rankings.
Obviously unfair, yes? An obvious perpetuation of privilege, right? And obviously silly too since the Boondock U candidate has done equally well with a worse education and is therefore likely to be the smarter of the two.
Let’s go back to the Oxbridge example. Again we have one place. This time we have two candidates, an Etonian who hasn’t taken the entrance exam AT ALL but has got a REALLY good write-up from his housemaster and the state school candidate who has taken the entrance exam and done very well. But we choose the Etonian a) because he had a better training than the state school candidate and b) because his housemaster (whose pay and status is partly dependent on how many of his students he can get into Oxbridge) recommends him very highly. If it came out that admission decisions had been made on this kind of basis there would have been a public outcry and rightly so. But it seems that when it comes to TT hires, analogous decisions are being made right now right across America. People with the right pedigree but no publications are being hired over people with good publications but a less distinguished pedigree. This seems to me a disgrace: obviously unfair and not only unfair but deeply irrational if the object of the exercise is to hire competent and productive scholars. 
I suggest a two-track solution. 1) Pedigree should not be a consideration at any stage of the selection process. Period. 2) The first cut should be made on the basis of publications times the prestige of the venues divided by time out for the completion of the candidate’s PhD. Though far from perfect this would be a lot less unjust and a lot less irrational than what currently seems to be going on.

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  4. Charles Pigden Avatar

    To Michael Kremer
    Michael Kremer suggests that if we judge the candidates for what are, in part, research positions in terms of their research output ‘we should sever all even etymological ties with the idea of [philosophy] as the love of wisdom’. But what is the alternative – that we select candidates on the basis of patronage (i.e. letters of recommendation ) and pedigree which is what is too often done at the moment? As other posters have made abundantly clear, pedigree plus letters of recommendation tend to reinforce the Matthew effect in Philosophy: ‘To him who hath shall be given and from him who hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Or is Kremer suggesting that search committees should read all the writing samples that candidates send in so that we can evaluate their philosophical abilities for ourselves? But with the numbers of candidates for any given post varying from fifty through to several hundred, this is just not a practical possibility. Search committees simply CANNOT read all the samples they receive which is why they need a quick and dirty strategy to arrive at the first cut. Mine is quick but a lot less dirty than the others that have been suggested, since it is a lot less likely to perpetuate privilege. So the only PRACTICAL alternative to ‘severing even etymological ties with the idea that philosophy is the love of wisdom’ is to continue the present reliance on patronage and pedigree. If that’s the case then I, for one, am willing to sever those ties.
    It’s a long time since I read Dummett’s piece, but his central point is that a system which evaluated researchers (tenured and otherwise) solely in terms of their published word count would have failed to foster either Wittgenstein or Frege. But of course that is not what I am suggesting. What I am suggesting is that for this specific purpose, namely making the first cut when selecting TT hires, we employ published papers multiplied by the the prestige of the venue (which serves as a proxy for quality) divided by the time out from the candidate’s PhD. (‘Wouldn’t it be better to use quality as a proxy for quality?’ Yes it would, but as I have already pointed out, this is not a practical possibility. ‘Wouldn’t it be better to use citation rates as a proxy?’ No, because it takes time for papers to accumulate citations and we are mostly talking about fresh-minted academics, most of whose work will not been around for long enough to attract published attention.) It is of course virtually impossible to devise a system guaranteed to recognize and reward the talents of somebody as wayward as Wittgenstein, so it would hardly be a reproach if my system would not.. (I guess we could set things up so that the screw-up sons of billionaires could get to got to elite universities despite a dubious academic record where they would get the chance to be befriended by exceptionally generous mentors – Oh, but hang on, wait a moment … ) But in fact the system that I propose would have worked just fine for both Wittgenstein & Frege. For by their early thirties, just at the age when they would be coming up for a TT position according to the present system, each of them had a book, the Begriffschrift in Frege’s case and the Tractatus in Wittgenstein’s, and obviously a book would count for several journal publications. Thus they would both have been highly likely to have made the first cut. So if the idea is that we shouldn’t use a sorting technique that would have done some of philosophy’s greatest geniuses out of a job, then my sorting technique measures up, at least so far as Frege and Wittgenstein are concerned.

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  5. Michael Kremer Avatar
    Michael Kremer

    To Charles Pigden:
    I’ve resisted continuing this discussion but since you have directly responded to me I will say a bit more. I won’t add anything after this post, so you may have the last word if you so desire.
    You say: “It’s a long time since I read Dummett’s piece, but his central point is that a system which evaluated researchers (tenured and otherwise) solely in terms of their published word count would have failed to foster either Wittgenstein or Frege.”
    No, that is not his central point. These are just examples he uses.
    His central point is that numerical procedures of evaluation (such as you suggest) are likely to lead philosophers to “absorb the values of their overlords and jettison those they used to have,” and further that using quantity of publication as a “criterion” is “…positively harmful. The reason is that overproduction defeats the very purpose of academic publication.” As he says, the “squalid scramble” produces a “plethora of not bad, not good books and articles” and conflicts with the “need for time to teach, to study the classics of philosophy and to think.” (My emphasis.)
    You constantly set things up as if the choice must be between hiring by pedigree and patronage, and something like your system in which a mindless and mechanical process (as you emphasize) can be used to cut to the top 10 applicants, based merely on the production of well, some part of the “plethora of not bad, not good books and articles.” But there are alternatives, as has been pointed out above. For instance, one can advertise narrowly by field, thus cutting down the number of applicants; one can ask each applicant for a research statement of no more than 5 pages, and then (gasp) read those, to help make the first cut. It seems to me your plan will contribute to a publication arms race (“squalid scramble”) in which graduate students feel pressured to produce more and more published writing which no one will read (on your approach most of it doesn’t need to be read, only counted up, to make the first cut to a very short list, anyway!). This matches Dummett again: “The plan of the ideologues is to increase academic productivity by creating conditions of intense competition.” Such a plan positively encourages what I consider to be vices such as premature publication, publication of every little minor idea one has had, not taking the time to think things through, scoring easy points to get another line on the CV, breaking up one’s work into “least publishable units” (as a friend once said to me) etc, etc. All of which is directly opposed to the idea of the love of wisdom, in my view.
    At one point above you say about your procedure “The only people it discriminates against are those people with NO publications. I think that’s fair enough when there are so many candidates with substantial track records of publication. I am rather shocked to find that people are getting TT jobs when they have nothing to show for themselves except the prestigious place that they got their PhDs.” But this is hardly the case: they have, presumably something to show, written to get their PhD, called “a dissertation” — a book-length work which may be the product of much more concerted thought and effort than the average journal article or three. Of course we cannot ask search committees to read through every applicant’s dissertation. But again, procedures other than yours can be used to generate short lists, such as reading short research statements, which could be made read independently of pedigree, for instance. This could be followed up by an examination of CVs to find particularly promising candidates who have not been included but have exceptional records of publication (I don’t deny that this can be a legitimate factor here). After which one will want to read the work, whether published or not.
    Well, I doubt any of this will convince you. I’ve said my piece and won’t return for more on this one.

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  6. Charles Pigden Avatar
    Charles Pigden

    2) To Marcus Arvan.
    I agree that the prestige of the journal is a poor proxy for quality but a proxy is required (since it impossible to read every paper), and prestige-of-venue is the best that is readily available since it is relatively blind to class-influenced factors such a pedigree. My proposal does indeed mean that OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL search committees would be less likely to hire candidates with publications in low-ranked journals than candidates with publications in high-ranked journals.. But the qualification is important (which is why I put it in capitals). If indeed your publishing strategy is a good one (that of submitting your papers to low-ranked journals rather than high-ranked journals, thus maximizing the number of your publications ) then you would come out about even with a rival (let’s call her Dr X) of the same academic age who had pursued the opposite strategy with equal success. You could expect to have more publications than she had, but hers would be multiplied by a larger fraction, bringing you in at roughly the same age-adjusted figure. That seems fair enough to me. Of course you would both do worse in competition with somebody of the same academic age who had lots of publications in high-ranked journals . But again that seems fair enough. Such a person would have accomplished a more demanding (and academically relevant) feat than you, and would have accomplished it more often than Dr X.

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  7. Charles Pigden Avatar
    Charles Pigden

    3) To anon Junior.
    A) It is true that blind refereeing is not always as blind as it is cracked up to be , Since I have a distinctive style and distinctive opinions and am relatively well-known in certain areas, a competent referee might well guess that one of my anonymized papers was in fact by me. But with junior folk this is a lot less likely. I do a fair bit of refereeing, often for top journals (I’ve got two papers waiting right now) and it is not very often that I can make even a tentative guess at the identity of submitter who is not fairly well-published already. Someone of roughly my seniority who was a bit more connected (a keen conference goer living near some big metropolitan center) might be better at it than I am, but such a person would be likely to meet so many talented young people that he or she would have a problem distinguishing one from another simply in virtue of their styles and opinions. So though I don’t deny that pedigree (and hence class etc) can boost the chances of recognition on the part of a referee and that such a boost can sometimes boost your chances of acceptance (though it can also work in reverse), I don’t think that this is a major factor for a young person in getting published.
    B) You write: ‘Publishing as a graduate student and early in one’s career is almost certainly going to be linked to some degree to the amount of help, support and encouragement one receives from mentors and advisers. There’s good reason to think that race/class/gender/pedigree/etc. have profound affects on who receives the kind of support and mentoring that would lead to submitting high quality articles to high quality journals.’
    My first point is that if you are a graduate student anywhere and if haven’t got the message that it is a good idea to publish early, then you must have been living under a rock without internet access for the last ten years. You don’t need much mentoring to realize that it is a good thing to submit. My second point is that although mentoring no doubt helps, it is perfectly possible to get published in top journals with little or no mentoring. Of my first six journal articles, four were substantially ready by the time I finished my PhD and could have been submitted earlier (it was not so necessary in those days). Of these three appeared in top ten journals. (two in PQ one in the AJP). Although I talked a lot of philosophy with the faculty at la Trobe, only one of these three papers had anything like the kind of mentoring that you seem to have in mind with ‘faculty offering to review and edit possible journal submissions’. Even then I went outside my department to solicit help in plugging a gap in my argument. (Let me stress that I am not complaining about my supervisors, quite the contrary. One reason I did not get more mentoring when I was at La Trobe was that I was temperamentally unmentorable). I’m not denying of course that it is easier to get into the groove of publishing if you go to a top school but it is far from necessary and this is an area where the less lucky but more talented have a real chance to catch up, especially in philosophy, a discipline in which you can accomplish quite a lot without stirring very far from your own armchair.
    Moreover I would repeat my first challenge. If you are NOT going to use publications adjusted for academic age and the prestige of the venue, what OTHER criterion are you going to use to make the first cut which does not perpetuate privilege even more? It’s a tough job mitigating the Matthew effect, especially in such a radically unequal society as the US, but relying on pedigree plus letters of recommendation is pretty well guaranteed to make it worse.

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  8. Charles Pigden Avatar
    Charles Pigden

    4) Fritz Altoff asks ‘What about candidates who have no publications, but a lot of potential? They get a zero?’ Absolutely they get zero. But that’s what happens now except that it happens on an unfair basis. Candidates with potential plus pedigree get a chance that is effectively denied to candidates with potential but no pedigree. Candidates with potential that has been recognized by a famous name get chances that are effectively denied to candidates with the same potential but no-name referees. I am happy to sacrifice candidates with potential and pedigree to candidates without pedigree who have managed to actualize their potential. ‘What of people who haven’t graduated yet? They’re infinite (cf., divide by zero)?’ Surely the answer is obvious! In that case we MULTIPLY publications-times prestige by the number of years TO graduation. You get MORE credit for publishing as a graduate student , undergraduate or schoolkid than you do for publishing the same stuff as a fully-fledged PhD.

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  9. Shelley Tremain Avatar
    Shelley Tremain

    I commented early on in this thread and then sort of lost track of it with the Typepad mishap and other events, but I’ve just come back to it. I think that some of the people who have commented thus far should refresh their memories about the impetus for Helen’s post. Helen’s post asserted that an emphasis on “pedigree” in the hiring process can work to the detriment of (white) women and racialized minority candidates. (I subsequently indicated some of the ways in which it can work to the detriment of disabled candidates, however gendered or racialized.) But I doubt that Helen meant to suggest that this factor was the only hiring mechanism disadvantageous to these candidates. That the disadvantages of current hiring practices are multi-factorial for various underrepresented groups seems to have been lost in much of this thread, as Lionel McPherson’s remarks at #52 note. Thus, at least some of the suggested remedies to the current emphasis on phd-granting institution in order to compose short-lists and final cuts won’t work to the benefit of some underrepresented groups at all. I want to underscore this point because many well-intentioned members of the profession seem to think that the same correctives can be used in all cases, that is, to redress the gross underrepresentation of black and other racialized philosophers, redress the virtual exclusion of disabled philosophers, and so on. But that is simply not the case. Furthermore, some of the purported correctives that are used, and have been used, can work to the benefit of some underrepresented groups and increase the disadvantage of others. That the problems that beset the profession and discipline are repeatedly cast as problems with respect to “women and minorities in philosophy” and “women and other unrepresented groups in philosophy” itself is, I maintain, part of the problem (please see my arguments here: http://dsq-sds.org/article/view/3877/3402). I think that the profession should acknowledge that there will be few solutions that apply across the board, that is, there will be few of these sorts of easy fixes and we should be skeptical, if not suspicious, of any claims to the contrary. The outcomes for groups historically disadvantaged in philosophy may look the same (and I would argue that even this observation is incorrect), but the causation of these outcomes varies, and in some cases, varies widely.

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  10. Shelley Tremain Avatar
    Shelley Tremain

    Two things:
    1. I apologize to Helen whose post focused on race, ethnicity, and economic background, not gender along with these other social circumstances. The thread came to encompass gender. Thus, I believe (for this reason and others)that my remarks remain pertinent.
    2. One factor that I rarely, if ever, see mentioned in these ongoing discussions about the homogeneity of philosophy and the disadvantages that accrue to various underrepresented groups is the criterion according to which the best candidates (i.e., candidates most deserving of jobs and with the most potential) are “freshly-minted phds” (as someone put it above), that is, the factor of when candidates received their phds. Since black philosophers, disabled philosophers, and philosophers from other underrepresented groups have not been getting the tenure-track jobs, they will be in many cases the applicants who have worked for years, in some cases, many years, in non-tenure track positions or jobs outside of the university or some combination thereof. They may have great publication records and references, etc., but in their cases, publication records and references will likely be ignored. Thus, the emphasis on numbers of years from degree doubly penalizes applicants from these applicants: first they were the casualties of a biased and discriminatory profession, getting passed over repeatedly for jobs because they are members of certain constituencies, and they will subsequently be, and continue to be, the casualties of a flawed system because they did not get a job sooner.

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  11. Helen De Cruz Avatar

    Hi Shelley – yes, the attractiveness of the newly minted PhD is a curious phenomenon. A friend of mine who was recently member of a SC was surprised how much his fellow SC members were attracted by this – choosing a newly minted PhD from a prestigious program over a seasoned person with one or more VAPs, excellent student evaluations and a solid publication record. He hypothesized it was because the SC members can project all their hopes and dreams on the newly minted candidate, not on the VAP.

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  12. Shelley Tremain Avatar
    Shelley Tremain

    Helen, administrative policies and pressures aside, I think the idea that the most recent phds (especially if they have the right pedigree) are the most desirable and most deserving of positions stems from the deeply-entrenched and often incorrect belief that they, and only they, are the philosophers doing the work that is most path-breaking, unique, “cutting-edge,” original, and so on. But if philosophers genuinely accept that members of certain constituencies have been variously excluded –systematically and in an ongoing way– from tenure-track positions and that with their exclusion a variety of perspectives, areas of analyses, subject-matters, and arguments have likewise been obscured from philosophical discourse, then they should also acknowledge that it is time to more critically question this outdated belief and recognize that in many cases it can be an arbitrary prejudice that works to the disadvantage of already-disadvantaged philosophers, that they should give it up, and indeed to make efforts to counter it.

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  13. Charles Pigden Avatar
    Charles Pigden

    Helen, may I point out that one of the beauties of my procedure is that it does NOT discriminate against the ‘seasoned person with one or more VAPs, excellent student evaluations and a solid publication record’ in favor of the fresh minted. In fact I evoved the method so as to even up the score between candidates who had been knocking around on the fringes for a bit and candidates who were relatively new to the business. Indeed if followed with flat-footed literalness my method tends to discriminate slightly AGAINST those who have JUST completed their PhDs As Fritz Altoff points out, you can’t divide by zero without getting absurd rests. So the publications of somebody who has JUST finished their PhD count for just as much as the publications of of somebody a year away from graduation, that is, they are counted up, multiplied by the prestige of their venues and then divided by ONE. Of course unpublished candidates with pedigree, alleged potential and nothing else, simply don’t get a look-in. That’s fine by me.

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  14. Charles Pigden Avatar

    A second reply to Michael l Kremer. I concede that Dummett’s principle point is that a research assessment exercise based solely on word-counts or article-counts tends to foster quantity over quality and that this undesirable. (I remark in passing that Dummett had a bit of cheek complaining that the didn’t have time to read everything that might be relevant since he did not bother to read everything that was relevant even when there was a lot less of it. It is extraordinary that ‘Truth’ should have been written, and indeed published, in apparent ignorance of the Hempel’s ‘Problems and Changes’ which explains in detail how all the attempts to prescify the verificationism that Dummett was arguing for had led to intellectual disaster.) This point has been taken on board as these systems have been refined, and nowadays you are usually asked to nominate a limited number of publications for the relevant time period. It is primarily on the basis of these outputs that your research performance is assessed. A team of scholars with the relevant expertise is expected to read (or at least skim) the nominated publications. In New Zealand you have to submit only four nominated research outputs for the six-year PBRF period, which is hardly an incentive to mindless overproduction. Indeed people with a few good publications are likely do better than those with a lot of low-grade outputs. But note that these procedures for assessing research are both time- and labor-intensive. Even in a small country such as New Zealand with only seven Philosophy departments, the assessors have to plough their way through a huge number of books and papers, about 300 for philosophy alone, counting the ‘evidence portfolios’ (that is the documents in which you lay out your claims to fame as a researcher) which, in the case, of a well-published and well-cited scholar can easily run to thirty pages. Nothing like this is practicable for making tenure-track hires. I remember reading somewhere that studies have shown that in the large – comparing departments with departments rather than individual scholars with individual scholars – subject-adjusted citation-based metrics are strongly correlated with the quality-based assessment procedures that are currently in vogue. If so, this could save a lot of time and money, when it comes to research assessment exercises. Here too the metric incentivizes GOOD research which tends to get read, recognized and used rather than the overproduction of low-grade papers. (Papers which are unread and uncited don’t bring home the academic bacon.) But here too, this is not a method that can be used for making tenure-track hires as most of the candidates’ papers won’t have been around long enough to accumulate any citations.
    Now the accusation becomes that my procedure incentivizes over-production in the same sort of way that Dummett believed that the research assessment procedures that he was ORIGINALLY criticizing incentivized overproduction. There’s something in this charge of course. If there is anything of merit in your thesis, my system creates a strong incentive to put it out there as fast as possible. And that means that there will be a lot of papers published – or at least submitted – which are not all that meritorious. But even here some weighting is given to quality, though we have to use a proxy, namely the prestige of the venue. As Marcus Arvan’s criticism makes clear, people with a few publications in high ranking journals will do as well or better than people with a more publications low-ranking journals. He thinks that this is a Bad Thing but since it is, at any rate, a Thing (that is a feature of my system), Kremer’s objection is to some extent answered. Moreover, though there is some slight advantage to overproduction early in ones career, once the person has got tenure, the incentive to overproduction evaporates. (It is for this specific purpose, that is tenure-track hires, that I recommend my procedure. ) With the research assessment regimes that are currently in force, it is quality rather than quantity that counts. Of course even with such modest incentives to scholarly publication, there will be more philosophy published than anyone can hope to read. But to suggest that this means we ‘we should sever all even etymological ties with the idea of [philosophy] as the love of wisdom’ is as silly as to suggest that because the whole of physics cannot be accommodated within a single mind, modern physicists have given up the attempt to understand the material world, or that because all historians are to some extent specialists, they have given up the attempt to understand the human past.
    Michael Kremer accuses me of insisting on a false dichotomy: either use my method or stick to pedigree and patronage. There are, he insists, other ways to make the first cut which don’t tend to perpetuate the Matthew effect. But both the alternatives that he suggests are impractical for one reason or another.
    1) ‘One can advertise narrowly by field, thus cutting down the number of applicants’ Not so. This is only possible in large departments where you can advertise for occupants of relatively small academic niches (a Hobbesian rather than early modernist, a Frege scholar rather than a specialist in in early analytic philosophy). In small-to-middling departments you are often struggling to cover the range of topics that you think important, and you don’t want to miss out on somebody good by advertising too narrowly. Thus we are currently advertising a junior post in which the possible areas of specialization include epistemology, the philosophy of science (including the philosophy of the social sciences) and the philosophy of mind. We would like to boost (or maintain) our teaching and research in each of these areas and our final decision as to which ones to go for will depend on who we get. (I could go on about the implicit elitism in his suggestion which is really only practicable for Chicago-sized mega-departments of about thirty, but let that pass.)
    2) ‘One can ask each applicant for a research statement of no more than 5 pages, and then (gasp) read those, to help make the first cut’. (Note the ‘help’ – this is where pedigree and patronage creep back in.) But really this is not a practical suggestion. Even with fifty applicants, reading fifty five-page documents at 300-words a page means reading 75000 words. When as – as is quite often the case – the applications run into the hundreds, this again becomes an impossible task. (Two hundred applicants gives you three hundred thousand words!) Furthermore the procedure relies on the committee’s ability to judge academic promise from what is essentially an exercise in bragging as opposed to my method which relies on peer-review to judge academic performance ).
    Thus I think my point still stands. Michael Kremer is right that my procedure tends to incentivize a certain amount of academic over-production on the part of young philosophers. But it does not perpetuate that incentive into later life. And it is the only practical method so far suggested for minimizing the Matthew effect created by the present reliance on pedigree and letters of recommendation. I think that that those extra papers are a small price to pay. After all, you don’t have to read them if you don’t want to.

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  15. Michael Kremer Avatar
    Michael Kremer

    I do not see how your point (2) makes my suggestion impractical. A hiring committee of 3 people can easily read 300,000 words (or 1,000 pages) in a week. That is after all just about 333 pages for each of them. I had to read more than double that in dissertation chapters, senior theses, papers to grade, etc this past week.
    As for incentivizing scholarly over-production only at the beginning of careers, habits once established are hard to uproot.

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  16. Argo Avatar
    Argo

    I’m just going to repeat Marcus’s data point:
    “50% of male hires were from top-5 Leiter schools.”

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